America threatening Taiwan's Sovereignty?
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The relationship between Taiwan and the PRC is one of the most complex and complicated ever in the history of the world. :crazy: |
Funny. I thought of posting this story earlier today but didn't think anyone would be interested.
I think the law that requires the US to come to the defense of Taiwan, were it to be attacked, is a provocative hold-over from the anti-communist days of the Cold War. Having said that, I have a strong dislike for the current government in China (ever since Tianamen Square) and do not support their claim on Taiwan or, for that matter Tibet. Mr Mephisto |
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Somethings are simply wrong. |
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The Chinese Communists are still Communists, and the cold war still goes on. The players have changed, the game is still on, and we're losing it. |
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It's like the oft repeating accusation against the Soviets. They too were not communists and both knew and accepted as much. Marxist, and specifically Leninist, political reasoning always stated that communism, true communism, was an end goal. Both Russia and China, even at the height of their powers, maintained that to achieve communism there was still a long struggle ahead. They maintained they were socialist states, working towards the "perfection" of a communist state. That's one of the reasons the USSR was called the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), and not the USCR (figure it out). Splitting hairs perhaps, but true none the less. And I think you're alone if you believe the Cold War is still being waged and the US is losing it. The Cold War was the military, social and economic struggle between the "West" (or capitalist powers) and the communist parties of the USSR and allies (those behind the Iron Curtain). The war was "won' when the Soviet Union collapsed. We can argue about how that occurred and whether Reagan should be praised as winning it for the West, but it certainly is no longer being fought. Mr Mephisto |
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Mr Mephisto |
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"Better Dead than Red" isn't just a pithy slogan, it's a goal we should be actively working towards. /no fan of communism or it's offshoots |
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I still boycott all things chicom. Fuck'em. |
Wasn't it Nixon who opened up dialogue with the Chinese?
Mr Mephisto |
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If you're worried about Taiwanese independence, as I stated in an earlier post, there is a game we play with the Chinese over Taiwan. The Chinese don't invade and we don't recognize Taiwanese independence. We both know that changing that stance could lead to a world war. |
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Ancient wise man say: "Easier to kill cub than full-grown wolf." I don't know about advocating a full-scale war with them, but spreading our national legs wide and WWIII are not the only options. We should stop buying goods from them, period. We should stop selling our debt to them, period. We need the jobs here more than we need access to their markets. I'm worried about "mixed messages" being sent. I remember how Kuwait got invaded. They already view us as their national enemy. We've been involved with one shooting war with them (Korea) and another war where they aided our enemy (Vietnam). They're rapidly approaching the cusp where they can legitimately (not as in justifiably, but as in credibly) threaten Japan (and there's A LOT of emnity directed towards Japan....the Japanese may have forgotten Nanking, but trust me, the Chinese haven't.) They're trying to build a blue-water navy, which is a great big red flag waving that we seem to refuse to see. They took Tibet. They're making growling noises towards Taiwan. After they eat Taiwan, they're not going to suddenly say "We're full, thanks!" |
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As stated earlier, our stance on Taiwan is a semantic game. Everyone involved understands the necessity of it. |
China is defeating us by subsidizing their steel so that our is unaffordable. Taking factories and business away from us, stealing our patents,pirating our copyrighted materials, and the worst parts we are allowing them to buy up our national debt and we have a tremendous trade deficit with them. If they ever decided to go to collect their debts from us they would own us. They don't have to go to war with us we're selling our country to them piece by piece.
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Appeasement of an enemy never makes things better. |
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I believe the policy is one called "constructive engagement" (I may be wrong here), but the idea is that you "reward" China by working with them and they will slowly improve as they see the benefits of trading with the West.
It's a policy wholly supported by Bush. Mr Mephisto |
Ummm...Mephisto....I thought we already ascertained that IMHO Bush is as dumb as a bag of rocks, and the only reason I'm supporting him is because Kerry is so much worse?
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