11-20-2003, 02:43 PM | #1 (permalink) | |
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FCC & "number portability"
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Personally, I believe that a phone number, when paid for, does belong to the customer, and that they should be able to transfer it to other services. The telco does not own any digits, and so doesn't really have any claim to the number. If you want to compare this to ISPs and ISP email addresses, it's different -- the ISP owns the domain name "isp.net", so any name@isp.net email address is their property after the customer has transferred service. As for deregulation, I don't see what harm it would cause, it would merely allow the wireline telcos to compete with the wireless threat to their business.
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11-20-2003, 07:42 PM | #2 (permalink) | |
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Re: FCC & "number portability"
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The provider never owned the phone number to begin with. They are assigned a certain set of numbers and exchanges when they obtain a license from state and federal regulatory agencies. In theory we all own these numbers ( the government). This is done to prevent chaos. Allowing number portability will allow a lot more switching between providers, both wired and wireless. Also it increases capacity because fewer numbers will have to be put on the sidelines after service is canceled before being assigned to another user. Telecom is still going through changes. The long term viabilty of wired phones for person to person communication is much in doubt. The lines will eventually be transferred to data transmission and other uses. The technology is no longer competitive with wireless in most areas, and does not provide as much freedom and productivity.
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11-20-2003, 07:43 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Location: South East US
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Sorry, I seemed to have screwed up copying your text.
Back to computer kindergarten for me!
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11-20-2003, 08:06 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Location: Don't worry about it.
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Personally, I don't think there is any debate.
It's a phone number. Maybe I'm more of a "west-wing" kinda guy, but really, don't people have better things to worry about then if they "own" they're phone number or not? It's not a car, or a house. Or somthing you just bought from the store. It's a local utility, or wireless utility. If you more from Cali to Vermont, and Verizon is in both places, you should be able to keep the number, that's one thing. But worrying about if you OWN that number? I'm just really in shock people want to OWN phone numbers. Obviously the FCC did this out of ideas brought to the table. Personally, I think it's ridiculious. It's JUST a phone number. You can get another one! EDIT: spellin. Last edited by Kurant; 11-20-2003 at 08:11 PM.. |
11-20-2003, 08:06 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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Location: Farm country, South Dakota
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I am probably going to be the lone wolf on this, but I have to say I don't like this. Sure it's great for consmers but the tech's get screwed.
This is gonna be a nightmare for telco employees. (I used to be one until I was switched over to the CATV side. Granted I was only a permanent/temporary employee. Family business don't ask, it was complicated.) The reprogramming of the switches alone will cause quite a bit of time to be lost. I am not happy about this one bit. Granted it has always been possible but never very practical. For local exchanges if this happens often, you will see rates increase due to the increased man hours in switching numbers. |
11-21-2003, 06:47 AM | #6 (permalink) | |
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11-21-2003, 08:17 AM | #7 (permalink) | |
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But if you have landlines from New Hampshire getting put in Cali, that's really gonna screw with peoples head. I don't really think this is going to help anyone because costs are going to raise all over the telecomm spectrum to pay for this "portability" and to make up for lost profits. You'll also see no more local companies because you'll get some cell phone company to move into an area, lower cell service in that area, kill the landline company, then raise the price. No sir, I don't think this is good at all. |
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11-25-2003, 12:46 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Location: A Fortified Compound, East Coast
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Here's my take on the whole subject...
I think it is a great thing that people can now take their numbers with them. Originally, I was pleased with it the first time I heard about it. At the time, I was under the impression that it only dealt with Wireless numbers, and that wired numbers stayed the same. This, to me, was beautiful, because I have a number of friends who got locked into a year of two year contract with a certain company, and had terrible service, but when the contract ran up, they were tied down to that number. When people have been calling you for two years on one number, it is difficult to get them to change overnight. So I wholly supported that from the beginning. When I learned that it dealt with switching wireline phones to wireless, I was a bit shocked. I understand that in a lot of ways the local carriers don't compete with cellular prices. Also, you cannot beat the convenience of having a cel phone. So yes, it does give wireless providers an unfair advantage. But then I really started to think about it. Local carriers have consistently kept consumers nuts in a vise for decades. If a large carrier such as SBC runs your local area, in the past you were stuck with SBC. They could essentially price-gouge their customers, but nobody would understand the gouging, since there was no other competition. Local carriers had the monopoly. The only good thing, in my opinion, that ever came from the Telecommunications act of 1996 was that the FCC required companies to open their networks to competition. However, these companies can still price their line-lease rates to third party companies based on local demand. Meaning, of course, that if SBC owns a five mile plot, and charges the customer $20/month for service, they could charge a third company $15/month per line to come in and offer service for one mile of that plot. Essentially, even though they have been forced to open their networks, they still control the price of service. So, keeping that in mind, I think the local carriers have held on to the market long enough. With wireless companies now being able to take their numbers, the phone companies are going ot have to wise up and realize that the time for competition is upon them. Wireline carriers could easily offer unlimited long distance to their customers, but then they are left with only the monthly service charge coming in. It does not allow much room for market growth, considering the holiday calls would fail to net them any extra money. Many phone companies offer unlimited long distance for an extra fee, so it isn't as if the idea is impossible. Besides, there are still going to be a huge number of people that must keep a wireline phone. Most small home office users have an extra line strictly for a fax. Although there are various ways of getting faxes via the internet, not all users either understand this or are willing to convert to this. Those lines will remain, because although it is possible to get faxes on mobile phones, it isn't commonplace. Also, if a customer has a DSL line through PacBell or BellSouth, are they not required to keep a phone line? I know locally that Bellsouth requires that you have your phone service through them in order to get DSL, so I have friends who won't be switching full-cellular just yet. And, one item which is by no means irrelevant, are the people who have security systems installed at their homes. Most all alarm providers need to have a land line connection, with the exception of a few of the top-tier companies. While these customers have the option of lowering the service they receive from the phone company, that line still has to be there, and has to be connected at both ends. So I applaud the new number portability. It is time that land carriers felt the pinch of holding onto their monopoly for too long.
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11-26-2003, 11:09 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Land line companies are becoming obsolete. Those are the breaks. Get in wireless or youll be extinct soon enough. I have Sprint, the worst wireless provider in all the land, and I cannot wait to take my number and jet in January. Finally the FCC does something right.
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