Schwarzenegger on his orgies, drugs, and "fags" - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Johnny Rotten · 08-27-2003, 04:31 PM

In 1977, Ahnold conducted an interview with Oui Magazine, a now-defunct Playboy rag. Some pretty eyebrow-raising stuff can be found therein. While much of it is fueled by bravado, it's still not what I personally want to see in a guy who could very likely be the governor of my state for the next four years.

For example:

"Bodybuilders party a lot, and once, in Gold's--the gym in Venice, California, where all the top guys train--there was a black girl who came out naked. Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs, where we all got together." Asked by Manso if he was talking about a "gang bang," Schwarzenegger answered, "Yes, but not everybody, just the guys who can fuck in front of other guys. Not everybody can do that. Some think that they don't have a big-enough cock, so they can't get a hard-on. Having chicks around is the kind of thing that breaks up the intense training. It gives you relief, and then afterward you go back to the serious stuff."

You can read the summary and the interview (scanned directly from the magazine) here:
http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/arnoldoui1.html

TheKak · 08-27-2003, 05:06 PM

Really, who cares? Look at most of our presidents, and most of them are fucked up in some way (sex in the white house anyone?).

Just about everyone has done something they regret, and this was 30 years ago. People can change a lot in 30 years.

Phaenx · 08-27-2003, 05:11 PM

I was just looking at some porn on this site, I think my political career is fucked, with a small cock belonging to a self concious body builder. He should do more penis curls.

Johnny Rotten · 08-27-2003, 05:12 PM

Dude.

"On the practice of abstaining from sex prior to a competition, Schwarzenegger rejected that approach: 'I get laid on purpose. I can't sleep before a competition and I'm up all night, anyway, so instead of staring at the ceiling I figure I might as well find somebody and fuck.' In fact, at the 1972 Mr. Olympia contest, "we had girls backstage giving head, then all of us went out and I won. It didn't bother me at all; in fact, I went out there feeling like King Kong," added Schwarzenegger.

I don't expect my political representatives to be paragons of virtue, and I certainly don't consider myself a prude...

...But if I heard that coming out of the mouth of any of my reps, I'd start digging a bomb shelter.

viveleroi0 · 08-27-2003, 05:40 PM

This is HILARIOUS, I cannot believe that arnold S was ever like this... he has some pretty funny ass comments.

Sorry if this was posted already, but I did a search and didn't see it.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

YourNeverThere · 08-27-2003, 06:02 PM

Hahah thats a great article. Man that was funny

The_Dude · 08-27-2003, 06:03 PM

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AUGUST 27--Arnold Schwarzenegger once told a magazine interviewer about participating in an orgy with other bodybuilders, noting that "everybody jumped on" the woman involved and "took her upstairs where we all got together." The California Republican added that not every muscleman participated in the gang bang, "just the guys who can fuck in front of other guys. Not everybody can do that. Some think that they don't have a big-enough cock, so they can't get a hard-on."

Schwarzenegger's lewd talk appeared in the August 1977 issue of Oui, a now-defunct adult magazine published by Playboy. The six-page Schwarzenegger interview was conducted by author Peter Manso and flagged on the magazine's cover with the headline, "Arnold Schwarzenegger on the Sex Secrets of Bodybuilders."

At the time of the Oui story, Schwarzenegger, then 29, was appearing in "Pumping Iron," a documentary on the bodybuilding circuit. In the Q&A with Manso, today's gubernatorial wannabe spoke about his sex life, drug usage, and belief that men "shouldn't feel like fags just because they want to have nice-looking bodies."

Schwarzenegger even entertained a question about his penis size. When Manso asked, "Is your cock disproportionate to the rest of you?" Schwarzenegger replied, "Well, that depends on what you mean by disproportionate. The cock isn't a muscle, so it doesn't grow in relation to the shoulders, say, or the pectorals. You can't make it bigger through exercise, that's for sure." He added that "women have told me they're curious about its size--you know, outgoing chicks who're just trying to be outrageous or horny. I hear all kind of lines, including 'Oh, you're hurting me; you're so big.' But it means nothing. Bodybuilders' cocks are the same size as everyone else's."

Asked if he felt "exploited" by women who pursued him because of his physique, Schwarzenegger said, "No, I'd feel used only if I didn't get something out of it. If a girl comes on strong and says, 'I really dig your body and I want to fuck the shit out of you,' I just decide whether or not I like her. If I do take her home, I try to make sure I get just as much out of it as she does. The word exploited therefore wouldn't apply." Schwarzenegger later noted that once outside the gym, he forgets about bodybuilding: "I can look at a chick who's a little out of shape and if she turns me on, I won't hesitate to date her. If she's a good fuck, she can weigh 150 pounds, I don't care."

On the practice of abstaining from sex prior to a competition, Schwarzenegger rejected that approach: "I get laid on purpose. I can't sleep before a competition and I'm up all night, anyway, so instead of staring at the ceiling I figure I might as well find somebody and fuck." In fact, at the 1972 Mr. Olympia contest, "we had girls backstage giving head, then all of us went out and I won. It didn't bother me at all; in fact, I went out there feeling like King Kong," added Schwarzenegger.

When Manso asked whether he used "dope," Schwarzenegger replied, "Yes, grass and hash--no hard drugs. But the point is that I do what I feel like doing. I'm not on a health kick."

Asked whether he was "freaked out" by being in such close contact with guys at the gym, Schwarzenegger said, "Men shouldn't feel like fags just because they want to have nice-looking bodies...Gay people are fighting the same kind of stereotyping that bodybuilders are: People have certain misconceptions about them just as they do about us. Well, I have absolutely no hang-ups about the fag business..."

Other topics addressed by Schwarzenegger included:

* His dad Gustav, who was later revealed to have been a Nazi Party member: "My father was the local police chief and he led a very regular life."

* His early days training in Germany: "I was living in Munich at the time, hanging out with night people--entertainers, hookers, and bar owners--and I had a girlfriend who was a stripper. I was an innocent boy from a farm town, but I grew up fast in Munich."

* Southern California hijinks: "Bodybuilders party a lot, and once, in Gold's--the gym in Venice, California, where all the top guys train--there was a black girl who came out naked. Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs, where we all got together." Asked by Manso if he was talking about a "gang bang," Schwarzenegger answered, "Yes, but not everybody, just the guys who can fuck in front of other guys. Not everybody can do that. Some think that they don't have a big-enough cock, so they can't get a hard-on. Having chicks around is the kind of thing that breaks up the intense training. It gives you relief, and then afterward you go back to the serious stuff."

he wasnt holding anything back all right!

and remember all the republicans bitching about poor bill and ONE blowjob?

hobo · 08-27-2003, 06:47 PM

Arnold seemed proud that he had gang bangs and that he could get girls easy. I wonder if this will get into mainstream news and hurt his reputation, or if it will somehow boost it by making him more popular.

docbungle · 08-27-2003, 06:48 PM

Gimme a break...he was a freakin' KID!!! lol. God, just any old thing you can dig up, huh? Ridiculous.

Phaenx · 08-27-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
he wasnt holding anything back all right!

and remember all the republicans bitching about poor bill and ONE blowjob?

Who said sex was bad? Not me. We were bitching about him cheating on his wife, and lying about it. Poor Bill.

XenuHubbard · 08-27-2003, 06:59 PM

I have the most bizarre image ever in my head right now.

Three bodybuilders having sex with one girl, and a whole bunch of other bodybuilders watching.

Ahnuld shouldn't go into politics; he should start a cult.

sixate · 08-27-2003, 07:16 PM

I merged two threads together....

Here's the deal. I don't agree with what he has done in the past, but the thing is it is the fucking past and if you actually think that he is that way now then you're probably smoking too much weed just as Arnold used to. I can at least respect the fact that he didn't hide anything or lie about who he was and what he was doing. Also, he's taking shit form libs over this because he told the truth about who he was over 20 years ago, and these same libs turned their cheeks to their savior/president who lied to them under oath!!! Give me a break. At least we all know Arnold isn't a liar. How many of you can say that? Another thing, 90% of the people walking around in our country have done the exact same shit as Arnold. I for one haven't done any of this shit so I can be as critical as I want, but to all of those who have done the same shit as the ole' Terminator.... Well, you need a big healthy cup of STFU!

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Personally, I would love to know how some people around here live their lives in comparison to Arnold now.....

Phaenx · 08-27-2003, 07:30 PM

That's a great picture. I can just imagine him breaking some reporter in half over his knee.

Johnny Rotten · 08-27-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by sixate

Personally, I would love to know how some people around here live their lives in comparison to Arnold now.....

None of us are running for governor, or at least expect to hold the office.

Your attempt to get a rise out of me was unsuccessful, but feel free to keep trying. How often, as a moderator, do you tell people explicity to shut the fuck up for politely expressing their opinions and concerns? Am I attempting to state anything as fact? No. All I am doing is expressing my concern and providing the source of it. I find your extremely confrontational attitude completely out of sync with the tone of this discussion.

The point is that he's done things I wouldn't want a governor to do. This is not about liberal versus conservative. I've never defended the president whom you apparently, given your post history, never fail to point out is a liar and should therefore be burned at the stake--as if politicians are known for telling the truth. "How can you tell they're lying? Their lips are moving." This joke is as old as the hills. This isn't about political affiliation, since I have none and dislike like both parties equally. It's about a man who may be running my state for the next four years and commonly participated in orgies, gang bangs and hash smoking. If you want to do that, go ahead. That's your thing. But don't expect me to want you to become governor of California.

sixate · 08-27-2003, 07:56 PM

Johnny Rotten, I can understand your concern about him being a governor, but the current governor may not have done what ole' Arnold has and he obviously can't run the state, and he is a liar.

Here's a huge thing that people don't get about me. My political views are conservative, but I'm no fucking republican. Politicians on both sides are all liars as far as I'm concerned.

Lastly, I'm not trying to get a rise out of anyone. I'm just telling it as I see it, and nobody has to agree with my opinion.

Johnny Rotten · 08-27-2003, 08:22 PM

Sixate, thank you for acknowledging my perspective.

Although, I noticed you point out that Davis is a liar, and then you say politicians on both sides are liars. Is Davis especially contemptible for his lies? Is a politician automatically not contemptible if he is open about the things he's done? It just makes me wonder about what else he's done that hasn't come to light yet and probably never will.

sixate · 08-27-2003, 08:26 PM

Another thing to add, you find what I have to say as out of tone because I didn't bash Arnold? You have no problem about people bashing Arnold. That's OK, which is fine. Anyway, I'll ask some serious questions to get this back on topic.

You have a problem with what he's done because he's running for governor. That's fine too, but would you have a problem if he wasn't running for governor? I don't agree with what he's done no matter what, but it seems as though you hold your politicians up to a higher standard than the average guy just as most people do... I don't. The president and/or governor isn't held up to different expectations than I would expect from myself or anyone else that I know. They are not special. As far as I'm concerned they're all a bunch of liars no matter what, and I would like to see someone get in office who hasn't been completely corrupted by the political system.

Lastly, does anyone who has done the same things that Arnold has done really think they have any right to say anything bad about him? Sorry, but I don't. We all need to look in the mirror before we say shit. I already did.

GarthInPittsburgh · 08-27-2003, 08:31 PM

He was a fucking bodybuilder! What do you expect?

I dled some footage of him smoking weed. Funny shit. I think I'll go to one of his rallies and try and change the a/v system to run that.

sixate · 08-27-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Rotten
Sixate, thank you for acknowledging my perspective.

Although, I noticed you point out that Davis is a liar, and then you say politicians on both sides are liars. Is Davis especially contemptible for his lies? Is a politician automatically not contemptible if he is open about the things he's done? It just makes me wonder about what else he's done that hasn't come to light yet and probably never will.

I think that for the most part I answered your questions already. I must have been typing my post just before you added this. Unfortunately, I'm sure there's many things that we'll never know about many of the people who run our government.

Johnny Rotten · 08-27-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
Another thing to add, you find what I have to say as out of tone because I didn't bash Arnold? You have no problem about people bashing Arnold. That's OK, which is fine. Anyway, I'll ask some serious questions to get this back on topic.

You have a problem with what he's done because he's running for governor. That's fine too, but would you have a problem if he wasn't running for governor? I don't agree with what he's done no matter what, but it seems as though you hold your politicians up to a higher standard than the average guy just as most people do... I don't. The president and/or governor isn't held up to different expectations than I would expect from myself or anyone else that I know. They are not special. As far as I'm concerned they're all a bunch of liars no matter what, and I would like to see someone get in office who hasn't been completely corrupted by the political system.

Lastly, does anyone who has done the same things that Arnold has done really think they have any right to say anything bad about him? Sorry, but I don't. We all need to look in the mirror before we say shit. I already did.

But I haven't said anything bad about him, nor have I stated how I feel about other people saying bad things about him. I have simply stated what he's done, provided the source, and said I don't feel comfortable with it. How is that bashing?

I have no problem with people doing what he's done, I just don't feel comfortable with having those same people running my country. We need both the liberal-minded and the conservative-minded, not a bunch of people who've experimented with sex and drugs. We need anal, selfish people debating with laid-back bleeding hearts. Without enough people who've never done anything "naughty," we become weak. Too many of them, we become assholes.

I think a representative has to firmly understand his party's ideology, and I just don't see that happening here. He claims conservative ground, but has an extremely liberal past. It doesn't click.

sixate · 08-27-2003, 09:16 PM

Johnny Rotten, I'm not saying you're bashing. You, unlike me, are generally neutral in political debates.

On the rest of what you said..... For the most part I can agree with you. You are absolutley right about his liberal past.

Macheath · 08-27-2003, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Phaenx
Who said sex was bad? Not me. We were bitching about him cheating on his wife, and lying about it. Poor Bill.

Well Arnold will be fine providing he hasn't cheated on Maria Shriver. Otherwise the GOP would have to dispatch a T-1000 special prosecutor, just to be fair and balanced. If they need some help with the deposition, I have some crude and intrusive questions drafted.

I'm sure if something like that ever went down, Arnold would be just as <a href="http://www2.cnn.com/2003/US/08/10/nyt.murphy/">"embarrassed to be a Republican"</a> as he was during the Clinton impeachment.

As to the orgy stuff, that's groovy even if it's a bit grotty in a sweaty 1970s locker room kind of way.

In the end, you have to concede that liberals just have to chuckle a bit when they get the mental image of some uptight Republican chuchlady reading this stuff.

The_Dude · 08-28-2003, 07:17 AM

i bet arnold fucked more people than marey carey.

seretogis · 08-28-2003, 08:09 AM

If you want to make comparisons between Clinton and Schwarzenegger, do so of the last 10 years -- not things that Arnold did, and openly admitted, 30 years ago.

The_Dude · 08-28-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by seretogis
If you want to make comparisons between Clinton and Schwarzenegger, do so of the last 10 years -- not things that Arnold did, and openly admitted, 30 years ago.

so it's OK for bush to skip out on guard duty?

BigGov · 08-28-2003, 10:28 AM

Something someone did when they were in the their 20's can be easily forgiven.

Getting a blowjob (from someone other than his wife too) in the oval office while on the phone with a congressman. Well, that's like a checklist of things you don't want to do and checking every thing off.

And since this is the Arnold thread, I'll supply it with another classic.

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Arnold said he supported domestic partnership legislation but not gay marriage, contending, "I think that gay marriage [sic] is something that should be between a man and a woman."

Johnny Rotten · 08-28-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Jimmy4

Getting a blowjob (from someone other than his wife too) in the oval office while on the phone with a congressman. Well, that's like a checklist of things you don't want to do and checking every thing off.

Can't argue with that.

BigGov · 08-28-2003, 10:49 AM

Oh, forgot to mention.

Arnold admits it. Clinton lied.

splck · 08-28-2003, 11:13 AM

People sure get uptight about someone else’s sex life. What does a politicians past sex life have to do with how they perform while in office today? I'd rather have a politician that had lots of different experiences in life than a straight-laced prude. Seems to me that they would be able to make more balanced decisions.

Phaenx · 08-28-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
so it's OK for bush to skip out on guard duty?

Where did that come from Dude (It was ok, because he was never formally punished for it. In fact, he recieved an honorable discharge. All Clinton got was dishonorably discharged from America to Canada, by himself. The crook!)

Schwarzenegger never ran to Canada to avoid Vietnam, he wasn't old enough to serve but that's beside the point. He did however kill the snake guy in Conan the Barbarian, how many politicians ever killed a giant snake wizard mm?

JBX · 08-28-2003, 12:27 PM

It was the 1970's, who wasn't playing?

TheKak · 08-28-2003, 02:08 PM

Bustamine is no angel either, he was involved with a racist organization (MEChA), far far worse than having a gangbang with a bunch of bodybuilders 30 years ago.

Nizzle · 08-28-2003, 03:06 PM

I like how people from Minnesota and Ohio are so concerned about what Governor California ends up with.

BigGov · 08-28-2003, 03:13 PM

I don't think we really give a damn, it's just it's shoved down our throat so much we have to make some semblence of an opinion on it.

Sledge · 08-28-2003, 10:58 PM

This interview makes me LIKE Schwarzenegger. Sorry. Am I not supposed to? He's candid, he doesn't seem to be full of himself, and he's honestly quite funny in a lot of places. Arnold kicks.

Phaenx · 08-28-2003, 11:16 PM

And most importantly, he was honest about it! If the dems can dig up something about him smoking pot and participating in orgies last week, then they got something.

Start by asking Cybil Shephard, she seems to think she knows something.

rodgerd · 08-28-2003, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Rotten

I don't expect my political representatives to be paragons of virtue, and I certainly don't consider myself a prude...

...But if I heard that coming out of the mouth of any of my reps, I'd start digging a bomb shelter.

Digging a bomb shelter because your rep likes to get head? Seems a little odd to me. I get worried when I hear that the President of the country with the most nuclear weapons explains he goes to war because God told him to.

rodgerd · 08-28-2003, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by docbungle
Gimme a break...he was a freakin' KID!!! lol. God, just any old thing you can dig up, huh? Ridiculous.

29? A kid?

rodgerd · 08-28-2003, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Phaenx
Who said sex was bad? Not me. We were bitching about him cheating on his wife, and lying about it. Poor Bill.

Kind of like Arnold has had a long running affair while married? Or the way he's been caught lying about questions on posing nude, sex, and drug use?

As a weight trainer who likes tongue in cheek action movies, I'm a fan of the guy in many ways, but he's hardly a paragon of honesty (hell, check out some of his fraudulent moneymaking schemes when he first came to the US), and I'm not to thrilled about the number of reports that suggest he's not so good about asking before laying hands on the ladies, either.

Battlefield · 08-29-2003, 09:06 PM

Bleh It's totally unrealistic to hold political candidates up to a impossibly strict moral and ethical standard. no politician is a saint, they're just good at deceiving the public. I'm sure A LOT of guys would answer those questions in a similar manner and nothing he said or did was particularly outrageous.

It's not like he used to wander the streets of Munich beating up Jews and gay people while shooting up heroin and selling Cocaine at elementary schools.

08-27-2003, 04:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
Johnny Rotten lost and found Location: Berkeley	Schwarzenegger on his orgies, drugs, and "fags" In 1977, Ahnold conducted an interview with Oui Magazine, a now-defunct Playboy rag. Some pretty eyebrow-raising stuff can be found therein. While much of it is fueled by bravado, it's still not what I personally want to see in a guy who could very likely be the governor of my state for the next four years. For example: "Bodybuilders party a lot, and once, in Gold's--the gym in Venice, California, where all the top guys train--there was a black girl who came out naked. Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs, where we all got together." Asked by Manso if he was talking about a "gang bang," Schwarzenegger answered, "Yes, but not everybody, just the guys who can fuck in front of other guys. Not everybody can do that. Some think that they don't have a big-enough cock, so they can't get a hard-on. Having chicks around is the kind of thing that breaks up the intense training. It gives you relief, and then afterward you go back to the serious stuff." You can read the summary and the interview (scanned directly from the magazine) here: http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/arnoldoui1.html

08-27-2003, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheKak Insane Location: Virginia	Really, who cares? Look at most of our presidents, and most of them are fucked up in some way (sex in the white house anyone?). Just about everyone has done something they regret, and this was 30 years ago. People can change a lot in 30 years. __________________ Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I.

08-27-2003, 05:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	I was just looking at some porn on this site, I think my political career is fucked, with a small cock belonging to a self concious body builder. He should do more penis curls. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

08-27-2003, 05:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Johnny Rotten lost and found Location: Berkeley	Dude. "On the practice of abstaining from sex prior to a competition, Schwarzenegger rejected that approach: 'I get laid on purpose. I can't sleep before a competition and I'm up all night, anyway, so instead of staring at the ceiling I figure I might as well find somebody and fuck.' In fact, at the 1972 Mr. Olympia contest, "we had girls backstage giving head, then all of us went out and I won. It didn't bother me at all; in fact, I went out there feeling like King Kong," added Schwarzenegger. I don't expect my political representatives to be paragons of virtue, and I certainly don't consider myself a prude... ...But if I heard that coming out of the mouth of any of my reps, I'd start digging a bomb shelter. __________________ "The idea that money doesn't buy you happiness is a lie put about by the rich, to stop the poor from killing them." -- Michael Caine

08-27-2003, 05:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
viveleroi0 Psycho Location: Oregon	TSG digs up dirt on AHnold... funny shit@! This is HILARIOUS, I cannot believe that arnold S was ever like this... he has some pretty funny ass comments. Sorry if this was posted already, but I did a search and didn't see it. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html __________________ "It's not that I don't understand, it's that I don't care" - Homer Simpson

08-27-2003, 06:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
YourNeverThere Practical Anarchist Location: Yesterday i woke up stuck in hollywood	Hahah thats a great article. Man that was funny __________________ The Above post is a direct quote from Shakespeare

08-27-2003, 06:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
hobo Archangel of Change	Arnold seemed proud that he had gang bangs and that he could get girls easy. I wonder if this will get into mainstream news and hurt his reputation, or if it will somehow boost it by making him more popular.

08-27-2003, 06:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	Gimme a break...he was a freakin' KID!!! lol. God, just any old thing you can dig up, huh? Ridiculous. __________________ Bad Luck City

08-27-2003, 06:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
XenuHubbard Cute and Cuddly Location: Teegeeack.	I have the most bizarre image ever in my head right now. Three bodybuilders having sex with one girl, and a whole bunch of other bodybuilders watching. Ahnuld shouldn't go into politics; he should start a cult. __________________ The above was written by a true prophet. Trust me. "What doesn't kill you, makes you bitter and paranoid". - SB2000

08-27-2003, 07:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	I merged two threads together.... Here's the deal. I don't agree with what he has done in the past, but the thing is it is the fucking past and if you actually think that he is that way now then you're probably smoking too much weed just as Arnold used to. I can at least respect the fact that he didn't hide anything or lie about who he was and what he was doing. Also, he's taking shit form libs over this because he told the truth about who he was over 20 years ago, and these same libs turned their cheeks to their savior/president who lied to them under oath!!! Give me a break. At least we all know Arnold isn't a liar. How many of you can say that? Another thing, 90% of the people walking around in our country have done the exact same shit as Arnold. I for one haven't done any of this shit so I can be as critical as I want, but to all of those who have done the same shit as the ole' Terminator.... Well, you need a big healthy cup of STFU! <center></center> Personally, I would love to know how some people around here live their lives in comparison to Arnold now.....

08-27-2003, 07:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	That's a great picture. I can just imagine him breaking some reporter in half over his knee. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

08-27-2003, 07:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	Johnny Rotten, I can understand your concern about him being a governor, but the current governor may not have done what ole' Arnold has and he obviously can't run the state, and he is a liar. Here's a huge thing that people don't get about me. My political views are conservative, but I'm no fucking republican. Politicians on both sides are all liars as far as I'm concerned. Lastly, I'm not trying to get a rise out of anyone. I'm just telling it as I see it, and nobody has to agree with my opinion.

08-27-2003, 08:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
Johnny Rotten lost and found Location: Berkeley	Sixate, thank you for acknowledging my perspective. Although, I noticed you point out that Davis is a liar, and then you say politicians on both sides are liars. Is Davis especially contemptible for his lies? Is a politician automatically not contemptible if he is open about the things he's done? It just makes me wonder about what else he's done that hasn't come to light yet and probably never will. __________________ "The idea that money doesn't buy you happiness is a lie put about by the rich, to stop the poor from killing them." -- Michael Caine

08-27-2003, 08:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	Another thing to add, you find what I have to say as out of tone because I didn't bash Arnold? You have no problem about people bashing Arnold. That's OK, which is fine. Anyway, I'll ask some serious questions to get this back on topic. You have a problem with what he's done because he's running for governor. That's fine too, but would you have a problem if he wasn't running for governor? I don't agree with what he's done no matter what, but it seems as though you hold your politicians up to a higher standard than the average guy just as most people do... I don't. The president and/or governor isn't held up to different expectations than I would expect from myself or anyone else that I know. They are not special. As far as I'm concerned they're all a bunch of liars no matter what, and I would like to see someone get in office who hasn't been completely corrupted by the political system. Lastly, does anyone who has done the same things that Arnold has done really think they have any right to say anything bad about him? Sorry, but I don't. We all need to look in the mirror before we say shit. I already did.

08-27-2003, 08:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
GarthInPittsburgh Crazy	He was a fucking bodybuilder! What do you expect? I dled some footage of him smoking weed. Funny shit. I think I'll go to one of his rallies and try and change the a/v system to run that. __________________ i was going to call 911, but I was downloading a file

08-27-2003, 09:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	Johnny Rotten, I'm not saying you're bashing. You, unlike me, are generally neutral in political debates. On the rest of what you said..... For the most part I can agree with you. You are absolutley right about his liberal past.

08-28-2003, 07:17 AM	#23 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	i bet arnold fucked more people than marey carey. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-28-2003, 08:09 AM	#24 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	If you want to make comparisons between Clinton and Schwarzenegger, do so of the last 10 years -- not things that Arnold did, and openly admitted, 30 years ago. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

08-28-2003, 10:49 AM	#28 (permalink)
BigGov WoW or Class... Location: UWW	Oh, forgot to mention. Arnold admits it. Clinton lied. __________________ One day an Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman walked into a pub together. They each bought a pint of Guinness. Just as they were about to enjoy their creamy beverage, three flies landed in each of their pints. The Englishman pushed his beer away in disgust. The Scotsman fished the fly out of his beer and continued drinking it, as if nothing had happened. The Irishman, too, picked the fly out of his drink but then held it out over the beer and yelled "SPIT IT OUT, SPIT IT OUT, YOU BASTARD!"

08-28-2003, 11:13 AM	#29 (permalink)
splck it's jam Location: Lowerainland BC	People sure get uptight about someone else’s sex life. What does a politicians past sex life have to do with how they perform while in office today? I'd rather have a politician that had lots of different experiences in life than a straight-laced prude. Seems to me that they would be able to make more balanced decisions. __________________ nice line eh?

08-28-2003, 12:27 PM	#31 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	It was the 1970's, who wasn't playing? __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

08-28-2003, 02:08 PM	#32 (permalink)
TheKak Insane Location: Virginia	Bustamine is no angel either, he was involved with a racist organization (MEChA), far far worse than having a gangbang with a bunch of bodybuilders 30 years ago. __________________ Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I.

08-28-2003, 03:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
Nizzle God-Hating Liberal Location: Silicon Valley, CA	I like how people from Minnesota and Ohio are so concerned about what Governor California ends up with. __________________ Nizzle

08-28-2003, 03:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
BigGov WoW or Class... Location: UWW	I don't think we really give a damn, it's just it's shoved down our throat so much we have to make some semblence of an opinion on it. __________________ One day an Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman walked into a pub together. They each bought a pint of Guinness. Just as they were about to enjoy their creamy beverage, three flies landed in each of their pints. The Englishman pushed his beer away in disgust. The Scotsman fished the fly out of his beer and continued drinking it, as if nothing had happened. The Irishman, too, picked the fly out of his drink but then held it out over the beer and yelled "SPIT IT OUT, SPIT IT OUT, YOU BASTARD!"

08-28-2003, 10:58 PM	#35 (permalink)
Sledge Pasture Bedtime	This interview makes me LIKE Schwarzenegger. Sorry. Am I not supposed to? He's candid, he doesn't seem to be full of himself, and he's honestly quite funny in a lot of places. Arnold kicks.

08-28-2003, 11:16 PM	#36 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	And most importantly, he was honest about it! If the dems can dig up something about him smoking pot and participating in orgies last week, then they got something. Start by asking Cybil Shephard, she seems to think she knows something. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

08-29-2003, 09:06 PM	#40 (permalink)
Battlefield Crazy	Bleh It's totally unrealistic to hold political candidates up to a impossibly strict moral and ethical standard. no politician is a saint, they're just good at deceiving the public. I'm sure A LOT of guys would answer those questions in a similar manner and nothing he said or did was particularly outrageous. It's not like he used to wander the streets of Munich beating up Jews and gay people while shooting up heroin and selling Cocaine at elementary schools.