Schwarzenegger announces bid for governer. - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Phaenx · 08-06-2003, 05:45 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...nce/index.html

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Schwarzenegger announces bid for governor
Springer nixes U.S. Senate race in Ohio
By Sean Loughlin
CNN Washington Bureau
Wednesday, August 6, 2003 Posted: 9:36 PM EDT (0136 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After dropping hints about his political ambitions, movie action hero Arnold Schwarzenegger announced Wednesday that he will run for California governor in an October recall election.

The surprise announcement came during a Wednesday afternoon taping of NBC's "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno which is scheduled to air Wednesday night. Prior to the taping, it had been widely speculated that Schwarzenegger, 56, would announce he would not run.

The Austrian-born movie star and moderate Republican helped fuel speculation about his political ambitions this summer, just as his movie "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines" was being released.

California voters will decide October 7 whether to recall Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, and who should replace him.

Although Schwarzenegger has never before sought political office, his fame and fortune are expected to make him a formidable candidate against a crowded field of lesser-knowns in an abbreviated two-month campaign.

At openings for his movie, Schwarzenegger quipped about his "terminator" role and Davis' future, and he has been very critical of the Democratic incumbent.

The actor is married to a member of America's most prominent Democratic political family -- Maria Shriver, a niece of President John F. Kennedy.

The announcement came amid a flurry of such news.

Socialite-turned-columnist Arianna Huffington threw her hat into the California gubernatorial recall race earlier Wednesday while talk show host Jerry Springer announced he would not run for the U.S. Senate in Ohio.

"I can't do it at this time," Springer said, stressing the challenge of overcoming his controversial show, where guests often brawl.

Huffington, an author and a political independent, announced her decision before supporters gathered in Los Angeles, California.

"I'm not, to say the least, a conventional candidate," Huffington said, taking note of her Greek accent. But, she said, "If we keep electing the same kind of politicians who got us into the same kind of mess, funded by the same kind of special interests, we'll never get out of this mess."

Also, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, released a written statement Wednesday, saying she would not be a candidate in the governor's race.(Full story)

Other major Republican names expected in the race include Rep. Darrell Issa of San Diego County, who helped finance the petition effort that triggered the recall; state Sen. Tom McClintock of Ventura County; and businessman Bill Simon, who lost to Davis in the general election nine months ago.

Former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, who was considering a bid for governor, has said he would not run if Schwarzenegger did.

A representative of Gary Coleman, who played Arnold Drummond in the 1980s sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes," filed the necessary petition signatures and paid the required fee to place the actor's name on the California ballot for governor.

Coleman, 35, who lives in Los Angeles County, could not be reached for comment. But his campaign treasurer, Steve Buel, who filed the paperwork in Oakland, told CNN that the actor's name "resonates with the voters."

Huffington, 53, had said she would not be a candidate if Feinstein, one of California's most popular politicians, entered the race.

Huffington, who has written several books on politics and culture, was once married to Michael Huffington, a former U.S. Senate candidate and onetime GOP member of the U.S. House. The couple divorced in 1997 and he later revealed that he is gay.

Politically, Huffington has moved from being a Republican to a populist-styled independent. She has never held public office, but is well known through her commentaries on radio and television.

The California race has already drawn dozens of contenders, including Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt.

Dick Rosengarten, editor and publisher of California Political Week, told CNN Wednesday that the California race was drawing so many candidates it was in danger of becoming a farce.

"You know what they say about politics," Rosengarten said. "It's show business for ugly people."

In Ohio, Springer, host of the controversial self-titled talk show, told supporters gathered in a hotel in Columbus that he would not run for the U.S. Senate against GOP incumbent George Voinovich.

Springer, 59 and a Democrat, said he couldn't get his message through the "clutter of the show."

In interviews this year, Springer had strongly suggested he would run and he filed candidacy papers last month.

Awesome to the max. I'd vote for him if only for the fact that he's Conan the Barbarian.

The_Dude · 08-06-2003, 07:30 PM

i dont get the point. i really dont see him as having a chance of winning.

it's like carol mosley braum or al sharpton declaring to run on the democratic ticket.

Phaenx · 08-06-2003, 07:36 PM

I think Arnolds got a good chance. He's getting more news attention then the democratic presidential nominees are getting. He's a huge celebrity, he's got more of a chance then anyone else does.

JoeyB · 08-06-2003, 07:38 PM

For the educated voter, there are several options including former LA mayor Richard Riordan.

For the casual voter...there's the Kindergarten Cop. He's been active enough in different causes that it isn't a ridiculous campaign and he's famous enough to get the "hey, I know that name" vote.

Remember...this state elected Sonny Bono---AND his wife.

sixate · 08-06-2003, 07:40 PM

I was just gonna post this.

I think he has a great chance at winning. Look at the idiots that are gonna be running. Does anyone actually think the people of Cali would be dumb enough to elect another dem after Davis lied and cheated the state and most importantly all the people who live in the state.

Zeld2.0 · 08-06-2003, 07:43 PM

Any republican can cheat and lie after Davis if thats your sole argument.

From CA I can say that it'll be shit regardless who gets elected - because the recall election is costing ore than the actual budget crisis all i can say is - whoever gets elected is only getting into more shit and 90% likely won't be fixing the problems.

And who knows honestly, there are so many voters in CA who don't vote but if they actually feel the need to for some reason the Dem's will have the # advantage here.

Phaenx · 08-06-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I was just gonna post this.

I think he has a great chance at winning. Look at the idiots that are gonna be running. Does anyone actually think the people of Cali would be dumb enough to elect another dem after Davis lied and cheated the state and most importantly all the people who live in the state.

Arnold is really more of a moderate Republican too, that will give him more of a chance then a conservative would have.

Gorgo · 08-06-2003, 07:48 PM

Simply amazing who would run for Governor of California.

The Terminator
Different Strokes child star
A Greek News Columnist

Who's next, Capt. Kirk, Bob Barker, Greg Brady ? ? ?

Only in California . . .

The_Dude · 08-06-2003, 07:50 PM

ok, somebody plz explain to me what the hell arnold knows about government?

i searched the web for anything regarding to his educational background and all i could find was his history as a body builder and actor.

i've looked at several mini-bio's and they mention nothing about any sort of education.

so, how do you think he can run a state like CA with a budget crisis that currently exists?

Zeld2.0 · 08-06-2003, 07:58 PM

Yea seriously... only in California jesus man

All I can say is - i really hate celebrities running for big government positions when most are not qualified but use their popularity to gain votes - i've always hated popularity contests ever since school time - and i prefer whoever is most qualified and able to represent my interests (that doesnt mean they can't be popular, it just means they have to be qualified and represent first and foremost)

Phaenx · 08-06-2003, 08:00 PM

He's been involved in politics for years, backed some dude running for president not long ago and has been a speaker even longer.

JoeyB · 08-06-2003, 08:04 PM

Wasn't he in charge of the President's Council for Fitness back in the Reagan years?

Sure, that doesn't necessarily qualify him to handle a budget, I just wanted to add something to his bio that didn't involve the words "Barbarian" or "Part 2".

sixate · 08-06-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
ok, somebody plz explain to me what the hell arnold knows about government?

What does that have to do with anything? Davis was supposed to know what he was doing and look how miserably he failed.

Arnold is a smart guy who succeeds at everything he does. He's a winner and a people person and seems to know quite a bit. Actually, don't we all think we could do a better job than more than half of the idiots that run our government. Give him a chance. I bet he does a great job.

TaLoN · 08-06-2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
ok, somebody plz explain to me what the hell arnold knows about government?

i searched the web for anything regarding to his educational background and all i could find was his history as a body builder and actor.

i've looked at several mini-bio's and they mention nothing about any sort of education.

so, how do you think he can run a state like CA with a budget crisis that currently exists?

did george washington have a college education? i think not

Zeld2.0 · 08-06-2003, 08:10 PM

The only thing going for Ahhhnold is the fact that he's a moderate Republican which *most* Californians can accept - yes even democrats - as they ahve accepeted with Pete Wilson and others before.

Go to the extreme and there is no way in hell. And yes becaues most of California is illiterate (i always laugh when i see our school ranks) I can only say that most people couldn't tell the difference between the issues anyways.

JoeyB · 08-06-2003, 08:13 PM

Let the man run.

It's not as if California is this pristine Utopia which needs to be delicately handled to keep its perfection. California is screwed up--what is the worst that could happen with Arnold....or Gary Coleman....or Larry Flynt as Governor?? They're not running for King. Yes, Governor is a huge position with a great deal of responsibility....however, the Governor isn't omnipotent with the power to make grand declarations the first day in office.

An "actual" politician will likely move to the front of the pack and win the election....and I don't mean to gloss over a very important point....Davis hasn't officially been booted yet.

Yes, I know it's virtually a certainty---but there's an important first step. Get Davis out...and then we'll worry about an actor serving as Governor of California.

Oh my god...an actor serving in office in California!!! That's never happened before....

(start the list)

JBX · 08-06-2003, 08:32 PM

The Governator....

pangavan · 08-06-2003, 08:42 PM

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ok, somebody plz explain to me what the hell arnold knows about government?

Most professional politicians are lawers with a minor in political science. They spend years learning to bend and manipulate the law while polishing their ability to convince people to see things their way. I would rather have someone who is ignorant but cares.

Shagg · 08-06-2003, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Zeld2.0

From CA I can say that it'll be shit regardless who gets elected - because the recall election is costing ore than the actual budget crisis all i can say is - whoever gets elected is only getting into more shit and 90% likely won't be fixing the problems.

And who knows honestly, there are so many voters in CA who don't vote but if they actually feel the need to for some reason the Dem's will have the # advantage here.

Ok, the budget crisis is 56 billion in the hole. This election is going to cost around 60-70 million at the outside. That amounts to what 2 bucks a piece for California residents?

Democrats don't have a decent candidate to run, only posibility is if Fienstein changes her mind and runs. Riordan isn't going to run against Arnold. Issa and Simons are extreme right wing conservatives so they don't have a chance. And just to give you guys an idea of how much support Davis has... he narrowly won against Simons, which considering how far to the right Simons is, was very surprising. If Davis's smear campaign against Riordan hadn't of given the republican candidacy to Simons, Riordan would have become governor.

Oh and btw, Arnold has a Bachelors degree in business from University of Wisconsin. (which he received before he started acting.)

hobo · 08-06-2003, 09:13 PM

I think the count for possible candidates recently hit 500. Its gonna be a really messed up election if there are 500 people running. Imagine how the votes will be divided.

Macheath · 08-06-2003, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by JoeyB
Remember...this state elected Sonny Bono---AND his wife.

If Arnold dies in a robot battle, will the RIAA name another repressive piece of legislation after him?

"The Kazaa Terminator Act"

goddfather40 · 08-06-2003, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by JoeyB
For the educated voter, there are several options including former LA mayor Richard Riordan.

For the casual voter...there's the Kindergarten Cop. He's been active enough in different causes that it isn't a ridiculous campaign and he's famous enough to get the "hey, I know that name" vote.

Remember...this state elected Sonny Bono---AND his wife.

Riordan has said that he wouldn't run if Arnold annouced his candidacy. Both are actually very simliar in their views.

At this point, I don't care too much who wins so long as piece of shit Davis is gone. He has fucked us big time. To put some things in perspective for the non-Californian, our car registration tax will roughly triple as of Oct. 1, which were already really high. Some people have already got their DMV bill for this, and most people who have a newer car will be paying $400-$600 bucks. My aging '97 S-10 will have a bill of approx. $250-300. I'm fed up with having to go these lengths to fight the state's financial problems.

Rodney · 08-06-2003, 10:01 PM

His heart's in the right place (this from me, definitely not a Republican), but he hasn't got the chops to do anything in Sacramento, especially with a Democrat-led legislature. It's brutal up there.

Richard Riordan, ex-mayor of LA, was going to run if Arnold didn't. But since Arnold's now declared, Riordan won't. Too bad. Riordan did a great job in LA. He's actually hated by a lot of the more extreme right-wing republicans (who dominate the state party machine) because he ran a basically non-partisan, practical administration. He got the job done with the people who could do it best, and it didn't matter what party they belonged to; kind of the original "kick ass and take names" kind of guy, not worrying too hard about who was on the other end of the ass. He's the Republican a lot of Demos would vote for, including me, because he might have a chance of straightening things out in Sacramento.

But now that Arnold's the front-runner (being the only candidate besides Davis that most voters recognize), I predict that the recall will fail. He's a nice guy, but I think that voters will realize that electing him -- a nonpolitical novice in the opposite party from the legislative majority and most other elected state officers, with no support from any powerful interest groups -- will increase the chaos, not lessen it.

Nad Adam · 08-07-2003, 12:28 AM

Isn't it ironic how the republican people on this board who asked the hollywood celeberties who was opposing the war to shut the fuck up since they have no credibility in politics being actors are now supporting an actor to be a govenor of CA.

I belive he could do as good of a job as the next guy. Obviously politic isn't about your credentials, it's about getting the votes.

The_Dude · 08-07-2003, 09:37 AM

well, anyone know anything about the platform he's running on?? how about the policies he would implement?

urizenxvii · 08-07-2003, 09:42 AM

great... you'd think we'd have learned our lesson from the last time we had an actor as governor...

and the democrats have threatened a recall if republicans win this one.

can the bay area secede from California? please?

Sparhawk · 08-07-2003, 09:46 AM

I got a big laugh when I did my ah-nold impression: "I weel go to Sah-crah-meento and cleeen Hauze!!"

Superbelt · 08-07-2003, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Shagg
Democrats don't have a decent candidate to run,

Not true.
Arianna Huffington and Larry Flynt are approaching this seriously.

Arianna has already made a deal with the Green Candidate that whichever one is the strongest opponent come election time will be supported by the other.

And Flynt can grab just as large a celebrity showing as Arnold. And he has a history of defending our constitutional rights. The Libertarians might just support him fully. With the low percentage that the winner is going to get, a niche market is enough to get the win here.

Then there is Lt Gov Cruz Bustamante. A liberal democrat and well liked. Plus he is hispanic which could get him almost the entire hispanic and black vote alone.

What the dems need to do is to get this dropped to one of these three easily competitive candidates to keep the vote from being fractured.

FastShark85 · 08-07-2003, 10:19 AM

Not many people took Jeese Ventura seriously, either.

What other cast members from Predator will run for governor??

Phaenx · 08-07-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by urizenxvii
great... you'd think we'd have learned our lesson from the last time we had an actor as governor...

and the democrats have threatened a recall if republicans win this one.

can the bay area secede from California? please?

Only if you all promise to become hardcore right wingers.

oldman2003 · 08-07-2003, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Shagg
...Oh and btw, Arnold has a Bachelors degree in business from University of Wisconsin. (which he received before he started acting.)

BA in business and international economics in 1979 and
an honorary honorary degree of Humane Letters for working with special olympics...
http://www.uwalumni.com/askabe/athletics.html

The_Dude · 08-07-2003, 01:13 PM

i'm impressed.

j8ear · 08-07-2003, 01:35 PM

Arrianna Huffington is nothing more then an actress/commentator (remember the "strange bed fellows" skit with her and al franken on the original polically incorrect on comedy central) herself.

She's been position hoping since her (ex-?)husband ran for some office in California (governer i think) when I lived there....back in 92, I think.

Superbelt · 08-07-2003, 01:49 PM

Arianna nothing more than an actress commentator?
Does that make a difference? People are supporting Schwartzie and he has less political experience than her.

She's very popular and could easily win if she was the only dem on the ballot.

Phaenx · 08-07-2003, 02:02 PM

That's the point. People were attacking Arnold's experience, so j8ear brought up his competitions political background.

Superbelt · 08-07-2003, 02:04 PM

Ooh ok

j8ear · 08-07-2003, 02:18 PM

Thanks for the backup...

Nothing against Arianna...just offering an observation is all. Agreed on her popularity...Almost as much as Arnold

I think nothing worse, then another career politician replaces Davis, can happen. Shake things up in the Golden State....which usually results in things getting shook up all through out these United States.

cetacean · 08-07-2003, 02:26 PM

I'll be back.

marcopolo · 08-07-2003, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Phaenx
Arnold is really more of a moderate Republican too, that will give him more of a chance then a conservative would have.

That's why they call him ' Conan the Republican'.
I saw his little shtick on Leno last night and I've got to say ... I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HIM ,GARY COLEMAN , LARRY FLYNT or the ADULT VIDEO STAR THAT ARE RUNNING ! CHRIST !IT"S LIKE HOLLYWOOD SQUARES !Shouldn't a candidate at least of held a previous office or been a lawyer or something to run at all ? No ... 3,500 dollars and a few signatures gets you on the FUCKING BALLOT !WTF?
I'm really surprised Arnie did not mention ' it was a Total Recall ' in yesterdays Leno . BAH !

seretogis · 08-07-2003, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by marcopolo
That's why they call him ' Conan the Republican'.
I saw his little shtick on Leno last night and I've got to say ... I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HIM ,GARY COLEMAN , LARRY FLYNT or the ADULT VIDEO STAR THAT ARE RUNNING ! CHRIST !IT"S LIKE HOLLYWOOD SQUARES !Shouldn't a candidate at least of held a previous office or been a lawyer or something to run at all ?

That's pretty sad. You essentially suggested that only rich people familiar with manipulating the position should be allowed to hold it.

In my opinion, we need more, not less, "common" citizens to hold office. Arnold is definitely not "common", but he is not tied up in the bureaucratic nonsense yet, and so is more a represenative of the people than a career politician.

08-06-2003, 07:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	i dont get the point. i really dont see him as having a chance of winning. it's like carol mosley braum or al sharpton declaring to run on the democratic ticket. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-06-2003, 07:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	I think Arnolds got a good chance. He's getting more news attention then the democratic presidential nominees are getting. He's a huge celebrity, he's got more of a chance then anyone else does. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

08-06-2003, 07:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
JoeyB feeling tingly	For the educated voter, there are several options including former LA mayor Richard Riordan. For the casual voter...there's the Kindergarten Cop. He's been active enough in different causes that it isn't a ridiculous campaign and he's famous enough to get the "hey, I know that name" vote. Remember...this state elected Sonny Bono---AND his wife. __________________ My mom is a Diamondbacks fan. She really likes the Big Unit

08-06-2003, 07:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gorgo Tilted Location: Tampa Bay, Florida	Simply amazing who would run for Governor of California. The Terminator Different Strokes child star A Greek News Columnist Who's next, Capt. Kirk, Bob Barker, Greg Brady ? ? ? Only in California . . . __________________ Will Code for food . . .

08-06-2003, 07:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	ok, somebody plz explain to me what the hell arnold knows about government? i searched the web for anything regarding to his educational background and all i could find was his history as a body builder and actor. i've looked at several mini-bio's and they mention nothing about any sort of education. so, how do you think he can run a state like CA with a budget crisis that currently exists? __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-06-2003, 07:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	I was just gonna post this. I think he has a great chance at winning. Look at the idiots that are gonna be running. Does anyone actually think the people of Cali would be dumb enough to elect another dem after Davis lied and cheated the state and most importantly all the people who live in the state.

08-06-2003, 07:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	Any republican can cheat and lie after Davis if thats your sole argument. From CA I can say that it'll be shit regardless who gets elected - because the recall election is costing ore than the actual budget crisis all i can say is - whoever gets elected is only getting into more shit and 90% likely won't be fixing the problems. And who knows honestly, there are so many voters in CA who don't vote but if they actually feel the need to for some reason the Dem's will have the # advantage here.

08-06-2003, 07:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	Yea seriously... only in California jesus man All I can say is - i really hate celebrities running for big government positions when most are not qualified but use their popularity to gain votes - i've always hated popularity contests ever since school time - and i prefer whoever is most qualified and able to represent my interests (that doesnt mean they can't be popular, it just means they have to be qualified and represent first and foremost)

08-06-2003, 08:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	He's been involved in politics for years, backed some dude running for president not long ago and has been a speaker even longer. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

08-06-2003, 08:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
JoeyB feeling tingly	Wasn't he in charge of the President's Council for Fitness back in the Reagan years? Sure, that doesn't necessarily qualify him to handle a budget, I just wanted to add something to his bio that didn't involve the words "Barbarian" or "Part 2". __________________ My mom is a Diamondbacks fan. She really likes the Big Unit

08-06-2003, 08:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	The only thing going for Ahhhnold is the fact that he's a moderate Republican which most Californians can accept - yes even democrats - as they ahve accepeted with Pete Wilson and others before. Go to the extreme and there is no way in hell. And yes becaues most of California is illiterate (i always laugh when i see our school ranks) I can only say that most people couldn't tell the difference between the issues anyways.

08-06-2003, 08:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
JoeyB feeling tingly	Let the man run. It's not as if California is this pristine Utopia which needs to be delicately handled to keep its perfection. California is screwed up--what is the worst that could happen with Arnold....or Gary Coleman....or Larry Flynt as Governor?? They're not running for King. Yes, Governor is a huge position with a great deal of responsibility....however, the Governor isn't omnipotent with the power to make grand declarations the first day in office. An "actual" politician will likely move to the front of the pack and win the election....and I don't mean to gloss over a very important point....Davis hasn't officially been booted yet. Yes, I know it's virtually a certainty---but there's an important first step. Get Davis out...and then we'll worry about an actor serving as Governor of California. Oh my god...an actor serving in office in California!!! That's never happened before.... (start the list) __________________ My mom is a Diamondbacks fan. She really likes the Big Unit

08-06-2003, 08:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	The Governator.... __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

08-06-2003, 09:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
hobo Archangel of Change	I think the count for possible candidates recently hit 500. Its gonna be a really messed up election if there are 500 people running. Imagine how the votes will be divided.

08-06-2003, 10:01 PM	#23 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	His heart's in the right place (this from me, definitely not a Republican), but he hasn't got the chops to do anything in Sacramento, especially with a Democrat-led legislature. It's brutal up there. Richard Riordan, ex-mayor of LA, was going to run if Arnold didn't. But since Arnold's now declared, Riordan won't. Too bad. Riordan did a great job in LA. He's actually hated by a lot of the more extreme right-wing republicans (who dominate the state party machine) because he ran a basically non-partisan, practical administration. He got the job done with the people who could do it best, and it didn't matter what party they belonged to; kind of the original "kick ass and take names" kind of guy, not worrying too hard about who was on the other end of the ass. He's the Republican a lot of Demos would vote for, including me, because he might have a chance of straightening things out in Sacramento. But now that Arnold's the front-runner (being the only candidate besides Davis that most voters recognize), I predict that the recall will fail. He's a nice guy, but I think that voters will realize that electing him -- a nonpolitical novice in the opposite party from the legislative majority and most other elected state officers, with no support from any powerful interest groups -- will increase the chaos, not lessen it.

08-07-2003, 12:28 AM	#24 (permalink)
Nad Adam Psycho Location: Sweden	Isn't it ironic how the republican people on this board who asked the hollywood celeberties who was opposing the war to shut the fuck up since they have no credibility in politics being actors are now supporting an actor to be a govenor of CA. I belive he could do as good of a job as the next guy. Obviously politic isn't about your credentials, it's about getting the votes. __________________ Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. - Psalms 137:9

08-07-2003, 09:37 AM	#25 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	well, anyone know anything about the platform he's running on?? how about the policies he would implement? __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-07-2003, 09:42 AM	#26 (permalink)
urizenxvii Tilted Location: location, location	great... you'd think we'd have learned our lesson from the last time we had an actor as governor... and the democrats have threatened a recall if republicans win this one. can the bay area secede from California? please? __________________ BOOYAH!

08-07-2003, 09:46 AM	#27 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	I got a big laugh when I did my ah-nold impression: "I weel go to Sah-crah-meento and cleeen Hauze!!" __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

08-07-2003, 10:19 AM	#29 (permalink)
FastShark85 Psycho Location: In the garage, under the car.	Not many people took Jeese Ventura seriously, either. What other cast members from Predator will run for governor??

08-07-2003, 01:13 PM	#32 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	i'm impressed. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-07-2003, 01:35 PM	#33 (permalink)
j8ear Gentlemen Farmer Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey	Arrianna Huffington is nothing more then an actress/commentator (remember the "strange bed fellows" skit with her and al franken on the original polically incorrect on comedy central) herself. She's been position hoping since her (ex-?)husband ran for some office in California (governer i think) when I lived there....back in 92, I think. __________________ It's alot easier to ask for forgiveness then it is to ask for permission.

08-07-2003, 01:49 PM	#34 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Arianna nothing more than an actress commentator? Does that make a difference? People are supporting Schwartzie and he has less political experience than her. She's very popular and could easily win if she was the only dem on the ballot.

08-07-2003, 02:02 PM	#35 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	That's the point. People were attacking Arnold's experience, so j8ear brought up his competitions political background. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

08-07-2003, 02:04 PM	#36 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Ooh ok

08-07-2003, 02:18 PM	#37 (permalink)
j8ear Gentlemen Farmer Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey	Thanks for the backup... Nothing against Arianna...just offering an observation is all. Agreed on her popularity...Almost as much as Arnold I think nothing worse, then another career politician replaces Davis, can happen. Shake things up in the Golden State....which usually results in things getting shook up all through out these United States. __________________ It's alot easier to ask for forgiveness then it is to ask for permission.

08-07-2003, 02:26 PM	#38 (permalink)
cetacean Insane Location: New York, NY	I'll be back.