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Old 06-25-2003, 02:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Head Chick's Mouth Roars! Again!



On the tour that brought them to Madison Square Garden last weekend, the Dixie Chicks aren't ignoring what their lead singer, Natalie Maines, called "the incident": the firestorm of condemnation and the withdrawal of radio play after Ms. Maines said, on the eve of the invasion of Iraq, that she was ashamed to be from the same state as President Bush.

Before the group performed on Friday night, chosen songs were played, among them "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding," "Our Lips Are Sealed," "Band on the Run," "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)" and "Born in the U.S.A." During the set Ms. Maines mentioned "the incident" as she introduced "Truth No. 2," which begins, "You don't like the sound of the truth coming from my mouth." She dedicated it to Michael Moore, who made an antiwar speech at the Academy Awards.

About time it starts to calm down and here she goes again! Where's Toby!!!
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Old 06-25-2003, 02:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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why do you care what she says? she has as much right as you and me to talk about her views.

i really doubt anyone takes her seriously on politics, she's a country singer for god's sakes! regardless, she does have a right to express her views.
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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.............. she's a country singer for god's sakes


Used to be! I think she's been divorced from country! Almost bet you can take that to the bank!
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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OMG she dares to critizise.... how unpatriotic.
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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She has the right to say what she wants to say.
And I have the right to not buy her CDs because of what she says.
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I bet if we boycott their concerts and CDs, Bush will magically become a genius, war around the world will end, and everyone gets free candy.
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If you like the music, buy it. Outside of that, no noise that she makes has any relevance. Let it go, already.
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Old 06-25-2003, 04:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2003, 05:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If you like the music, buy it. Outside of that, no noise that she makes has any relevance. Let it go, already.
buy music?? isnt that p2p is for?
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I wonder how long it'll be until she figures out that it was fighting for freedom that gave her the freedom to condemn fighting.
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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OMG she dares to critizise.... how unpatriotic.
OMG people dare to have an opinion on patriotism... how intolerant.
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Old 06-27-2003, 09:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Freedom is a double edged sword.

She has the right to say what she wants to say.
And I have the right to not buy her CDs because of what she says.
Well put. There's nothing that says you have freedom of speech ONLY if you criticize the government.
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Old 06-27-2003, 09:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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OMG people dare to have an opinion on patriotism... how intolerant.
Come again?
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:26 AM   #14 (permalink)
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i didnt get that comment either
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I don't see why anyone really cares about this so much that they want to even talk about it... Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You don't like it, don't buy her CD.

If you actually like the music and still don't want to listen... your loss. There are other people they can play for...
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:41 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree wholeheartedly with Charlatan. It doesn't make a difference what she says. Her opinion doesn't mean a damn thing to anyone but her. I'm sure we all have some opinions that would not be too popular with the general population. Her problem is that she doesn't know when to shut the fuck up.
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:43 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Come again?
The backlash against the Dixie Chicks is simply what they asked for. If you can't stand other peoples opinion- don't expect them to put up with yours. Liberals, in this case, expect people to understand Natalie Maines' opinion and respect her right to give it, but are intolerant of any opposition to that opinion and show little respect for other people's right to disagree with her. (I'm personally surprised that they haven't resorted to calling people who didn't like Ms Maines' statement "Fascists" and holding a candlelight vigil in Nashville for her.)
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:50 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I try to stay pretty involved in current events, but I haven't' really heard about this. Sounds like a classic case of the conservative propaganda machine whipping people into a froth though. I mean, whoop-de-doo...

crappy country music = crappy country music
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Old 06-27-2003, 11:29 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I try to stay pretty involved in current events, but I haven't' really heard about this. Sounds like a classic case of the conservative propaganda machine whipping people into a froth though. I mean, whoop-de-doo...
Same shit different P(p)arty.

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Old 06-27-2003, 11:55 AM   #20 (permalink)
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well she is allowed to say what she wants even if its wrong but o well
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Old 06-27-2003, 01:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I could care less what the Dixie chicks say at their concerts, what irritates me is that after they say something incredibly moronic they whine about their sales going down and that they are being boycotted. If you say stupid things, stupid things end up happening to you thanks to the fact that all citizens have the right to respond to said free speech. It's not "anti free-speech" to boycot anyone, it's been an effective tool of civil rights for years. It's not "anti free-speech" to boo someone who is preaching to you about something you disagreewith, even if the speaker is a Republican.
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Old 06-27-2003, 01:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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actually, they "whined" about death threats and vandalism directed at their personal property while sales continued.
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Old 06-27-2003, 02:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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actually, they "whined" about death threats and vandalism directed at their personal property while sales continued.
Unsubstantiated claims at best. Seretogis is right. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Conservatives have put up with this treatment for years. IMO I'm glad conservatives are finally showing the BALLS to return fire. Poor libs. Dish it out but ya can't take it.
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Old 06-27-2003, 03:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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unsubstasiated??

they showed those threats on tv
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Old 06-27-2003, 03:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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unsubstasiated??

they showed those threats on tv
The same tv that did not show an accurate depiction of the war in Iraq? The one that Al Gore claimed to be conservatively biased?
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The same tv that did not show an accurate depiction of the war in Iraq? The one that Al Gore claimed to be conservatively biased?
Yeah, it's a vast, communist/country music conspiracy.
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:42 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's a vast, communist/country music conspiracy.
Must be. When seeing something on tv supports the argument then it must be true. If its unsupportive then it must be propaganda.
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Old 06-27-2003, 06:09 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Must be. When seeing something on tv supports the argument then it must be true. If its unsupportive then it must be propaganda.
That's the official Tilted Politics Motto.
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Old 06-27-2003, 07:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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no no, i mean they actually showed a letter they received on tv.

one of those daytime shows it was.
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Old 06-27-2003, 07:45 PM   #30 (permalink)
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seriously though...doesn't this "Freedom" thing that we all hold so dearly include thoughts from people with unpopular opinions?
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Old 06-27-2003, 07:51 PM   #31 (permalink)
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seriously though...doesn't this "Freedom" thing that we all hold so dearly include thoughts from people with unpopular opinions?
sure it does, it enables me the freedom to lmfao at the open mouth insert foot debacle.
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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seriously though...doesn't this "Freedom" thing that we all hold so dearly include thoughts from people with unpopular opinions?
No, there's actually little-known small print in the Bill of Rights stating freedom of speech is not allowed among country singers.
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Old 06-28-2003, 03:12 PM   #33 (permalink)
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No, there's actually little-known small print in the Bill of Rights stating freedom of speech is not allowed among country singers.
Or people who disagree with them.
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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The disappointing thing about Maines isn't that she expressed her opinion. It's that she backed away from it and acted like it was something to apologize for.

Now... if they express their opinion via music, most of the knuckle draggin' trailer park dwellin' country music fans won't get it anyway.
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Old 06-29-2003, 06:06 PM   #35 (permalink)
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The disappointing thing about Maines isn't that she expressed her opinion. It's that she backed away from it and acted like it was something to apologize for.

Now... if they express their opinion via music, most of the knuckle draggin' trailer park dwellin' country music fans won't get it anyway.
Talk about trying to start a flame war! This could get one going in a hurry. To promote peace and tranquility I believe we'll just let you 'waller' in your feeling of superiority and let it go at that.
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Old 06-29-2003, 08:11 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Talk about trying to start a flame war! This could get one going in a hurry. To promote peace and tranquility I believe we'll just let you 'waller' in your feeling of superiority and let it go at that.
Uh, I'm pretty sure the comment to which you are referring was intended in an "ironical" fashion. Talk about wallowing in a sense of superiority...
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Old 06-29-2003, 08:24 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I'm late to the party, so excuse me for a second...all of this anger stems from the Dixie Chicks??

Hey, I heard that Brooks & Dunn said something bad about Hamas. You know what that means?

Nothing. They are singers. Entertainers. They are street musicians without the basket of change.

You should probably sit down....rumor has it that Shania Twain is opposed to the new tax plan.
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Old 06-30-2003, 12:19 AM   #38 (permalink)
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OMG she dares to critizise.... how unpatriotic.
How stupid. I don't think she knows who buys her music.

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seriously though...doesn't this "Freedom" thing that we all hold so dearly include thoughts from people with unpopular opinions?
The government threw them in jail? I don't remember that, I do remember people exercising their rights by showing their contempt for said artist however.
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Old 06-30-2003, 05:30 AM   #39 (permalink)
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No, there's actually little-known small print in the Bill of Rights stating freedom of speech is not allowed among country singers.
If it isn't there now the Supreme Rulers..er, Court will certainly add it later.
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Old 06-30-2003, 06:45 AM   #40 (permalink)
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definately! bush got the next 2 nominees
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