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Paq 10-11-2007 10:02 PM

Anne coulter...again..."Jews need to be perfected"
 
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=555880339&play=1

I don't even know where to begin...

actually, i know that spouting s**t will get you noticed and make you money....but ..i don't even think freaking stern goes this far. Insulting an entire religion and then proceeding to speak on behalf of all christians....

wow
just wow.

btw, this can be put in tilted nonsense bc it's another coulter thread, I just thought it'd fit in here.

i'm not even jewish and that hurt me.

connyosis 10-12-2007 07:22 AM

Oh lord, Ann Coulter is so batshit crazy it's not even funny. I automatically tune out every time I hear her voice. She is just not worth getting upset over.

mixedmedia 10-12-2007 07:38 AM

she is so done...she has to resort to further and further depths of farcical buffoonery to get anyone to pay attention to her.

I'm convinced that she should do her next book tour in the nude.

roachboy 10-12-2007 07:50 AM

dear ann coulter:

please do not do your next book tour in the nude.

your pal

roachboy.

the remarkable thing is not that her credibility is now shot to hell, but more that she ever had credibility to shoot to hell.

highthief 10-12-2007 09:05 AM

She's the Britney Spears of the political pundits crowd.

Actually, i think Britney has more credibility ...

FoolThemAll 10-12-2007 09:36 AM

I really don't get the big deal here. She basically said this: "Christianity is right, Judaism is wrong".

Well... in some loose sense of the word, she's a Christian, isn't she? Why wouldn't she believe that? Why stick with Christianity if it's not the One True Religion?

It's not like there's a shortage of absurd Coulter quotes out there. Coulter's an attention-whoring joke at best.

But I can't get too riled up over this one.

Yakk 10-12-2007 09:42 AM

But remember: She is still popular.

Willravel 10-12-2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yakk
But remember: She is still popular.

A world in which she's popular isn't worth saving.

Lucifer 10-12-2007 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yakk
But remember: She is still popular.


So is Hitler.

Elphaba 10-12-2007 10:11 AM

She has a new book to shill and she creates a new outrage to drum up sales. It's always worked in the past and it will again for those that agree with her and buy her books. Sadly, there are enough of those to make each book a best seller.

Daoust 10-12-2007 11:59 AM

What FoolThemAll said.

You are well within your rights to think that the thinks Coulter says are batshit crazy because they reflect her fundamentalist, backwards, extremist views.

I think the same thing about Dawkins and his views, expressed in his books.

To each their own.

Plan9 10-12-2007 07:00 PM

Here's a good response to Anne Coulter's insanity by Henry Rollins:


...

In the words of Thomas Rogers:

"I'm going to pee in her butt.

Show her who's boss, boooiii!"


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Originally Posted by Lucifer
So is Hitler.

Pfft! You can't find either of them on a lunch box, though.

Baraka_Guru 10-12-2007 08:16 PM

I like what one commentator said: That the next logical step in Coulter's thinking implies that Christians need to be perfected by Muslims, since Mohammed is the last of the prophets.

I hope Coulter's ready for that.

Elphaba 10-12-2007 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin
Here's a good response to Anne Coulter's insanity by Henry Rollins:

...but mostly, Anne? You will shut the fuck up.

Oh, what a find. I shall be spreading this far and wide. :D

Plan9 10-12-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphaba
Oh, what a find. I shall be spreading this far and wide. :D

Oh, don't forget this gem:

(cartoon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
I like what one commentator said: That the next logical step in Coulter's thinking implies that Christians need to be perfected by Muslims, since Mohammed is the last of the prophets.

I hope Coulter's ready for that.

Elementary! Logic-stack-tastic!

shakran 10-13-2007 12:41 AM

one would think she'd get tired of being a parody of herself.

james t kirk 10-13-2007 10:10 AM

Ooops, Anne just jumped the Shark.

You can say pretty much anything you want against whoever you want, but not against God's chosen people.

She's finished.

Daoust 10-13-2007 10:40 AM

Angry people who don't like Coulter:

Your arguments against Coulter are many, but can we sum them up in one statement for the sake of argument, that the reason many people don't like her is because she is intolerant of people who aren't like her. Right? Is that fair?

So your way of showing how much you don't like her is by being intolerant of her and people like her, namely conservatives, even further evangelical Christians and the like?

So you're fighting intolerance with intolerance. Is that an incorrect assumption?

albania 10-13-2007 11:04 AM

"Intolerance will not be tolerated."

Anywhoo, I don't know exactly what to make of her comment. Let's see, was it stupid and was it offensive? To answer my own questions, probably, and to some people yes. Should one get riled up because of it? (again I think I'll answer my own question) No, this is status quo, and what I've come to expect from her. Therefore, whenever she's brought up I’ve resigned myself only to comment this much: She’s hot and I wish she'd shut up.

Willravel 10-13-2007 11:04 AM

Yes, it's an incorrect assumption.

Baraka_Guru 10-13-2007 11:10 AM

For the record, I'm not angry, nor do I dislike Coulter. I have a problem with her ideas.

If by intolerance you mean not supporting the belief in dangerous ideas, then you could call me intolerant of what she said.

Daoust 10-13-2007 11:16 AM

Well, willravel and others, all your arguments are essentially the same...

"I hate her, she should die. She's an idiot, she's blind. She's wrong."

What you all really are hating is what you perceive as her intolerance toward anyone who's not like her, which includes most of you. You don't like being the victim of intolerance, or ignorance, or whatever you want to call it. That's fair. I don't like it either when I am the butt of intolerant peoples rants.

I just wonder about the way that people are responding to Coulter. It just seems that many are being intolerant of her views, and justifying it by saying she was intolerant first. I just don't like that kind of arguing. It seems weak.

tecoyah 10-13-2007 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daoust
Well, willravel and others, all your arguments are essentially the same...

"I hate her, she should die. She's an idiot, she's blind. She's wrong."

What you all really are hating is what you perceive as her intolerance toward anyone who's not like her, which includes most of you. You don't like being the victim of intolerance, or ignorance, or whatever you want to call it. That's fair. I don't like it either when I am the butt of intolerant peoples rants.

I just wonder about the way that people are responding to Coulter. It just seems that many are being intolerant of her views, and justifying it by saying she was intolerant first. I just don't like that kind of arguing. It seems weak.


I think you may be putting opinions into other peoples minds (vs. words in mouth), My perception is not that people actually care one way or another if she is intolerant towards them per se....more that she spews such intolerance at all while she is in a position to influence so many.

But I could be wrong....thats just how I see it.

albania 10-13-2007 11:32 AM

I think you’ve mixed up tolerance and acceptance. I think everyone here tolerates Ann Coulter in so far as no one wants her to go to jail, or be killed because of the things she said or believes. That’s tolerance, and it doesn’t mean they have to accept what she says neutrally. That is to say you don’t have to try to understand her side of the story or even have one iota of belief that in some way she could possibly be correct to be tolerant. To this end people are free to disagree strongly or even hate her because of what she says. I don’t see that as being intolerant; I see it as having an opinion.

dc_dux 10-13-2007 11:36 AM

I equate Coulter with yellow journalism.

There is obviously a market of millions for such writers, but I am not among them.

If that is intolerance, so be it.

ubertuber 10-13-2007 11:38 AM

Being a tolerant individual doesn't mean tolerating intolerance. That's bootstrap problem if I ever heard one.

I prefer not being caught in a rhetorical trap which requires me to listen to Ann Coulter's nearly incoherent hate.

Baraka_Guru 10-13-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daoust
I just wonder about the way that people are responding to Coulter. It just seems that many are being intolerant of her views, and justifying it by saying she was intolerant first. I just don't like that kind of arguing. It seems weak.

I don't think Jews need to be perfected by Christians. I would say that to her face, and I would be prepared to tell her why I think that. You call that weak?

She thinks everyone should be Christians. Are you saying we should accept that or appear weak or intolerant and hateful? I think the Dalai Lama would agree with me. Does that make him intolerant and hateful too?

Willravel 10-13-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daoust
Well, willravel and others, all your arguments are essentially the same...

"I hate her, she should die. She's an idiot, she's blind. She's wrong."

Don't make me post my strawman pictures again.

She's an idiot alright, but I don't like the people that listen to her because they were the same type of people who thought Man, that Hitler guy has some good ideas. I don't have hatred for people.

Plan9 10-13-2007 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubertuber
Being a tolerant individual doesn't mean tolerating intolerance.

:thumbsup:

Daoust 10-13-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Being a tolerant individual doesn't mean tolerating intolerance.
I love this argument. 'In the name of tolerance I denounce your intolerance!' Or, 'tolerance = intolerance of intolerance'. I think we're all intolerant. Tolerance is an absolute to which many may aspire to but none may reach. As soon as you identify an intolerant person you yourself become intolerant.

I can accept that I'm intolerant. I'm intolerant of people who do things or say things that are contrary to, or violate, my moral/ethical code. Very few people don't violate my moral/ethical code at some point in their lives. And I don't like it. I don't want to tolerate it. If I did tolerate it, on some level I'd be accepting it.

I'm intolerant of people who think they're tolerant, but really they're the grossest examples of intolerance.

Plan9 10-13-2007 12:19 PM

(does the vernacular Safety Dance)

filtherton 10-13-2007 01:02 PM

Daoust, you're presuming that one's attitude towards tolerance must necessarily be either black or white. Not all intolerance is created equal. There also isn't necessarily anything inconsistent about promoting tolerance in some situations and not in others. I can be tolerant of some things and intolerant of others and the fact that i'm intolerant of some things does not make me intolerant of all things.

That being said, fuck ann coulter. She's anathematic to anything even remotely resembling civilized political discourse. You can wring your hands about the ironic way in which that statement was made all you want- it doesn't make for interesting or compelling criticism to me.

Willravel 10-13-2007 01:28 PM

I am surprised that anyone would fight for Anne.

filtherton 10-13-2007 01:32 PM

Peter cetera would- he wrote a song about it, but it got co-opted by the elitist hollywood liberals who made the karate kid part 2. It's partly how miyagi got his speaking gig at the 2000 democratic national convention.

JohnBua 10-13-2007 08:37 PM

Isn't she saying that her religon is the right one? Isn't that the point of religon? When she starts killing or calling for the death of the infidels, I will be concerned. I was always taught that Jews are to be pitied cause they failed to recognise the messiah. Isn't that the same thing she just said?

Plan9 10-14-2007 05:44 AM

Omigod... religion is such a bad idea!

mixedmedia 10-14-2007 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daoust
I love this argument. 'In the name of tolerance I denounce your intolerance!' Or, 'tolerance = intolerance of intolerance'. I think we're all intolerant. Tolerance is an absolute to which many may aspire to but none may reach. As soon as you identify an intolerant person you yourself become intolerant.

I can accept that I'm intolerant. I'm intolerant of people who do things or say things that are contrary to, or violate, my moral/ethical code. Very few people don't violate my moral/ethical code at some point in their lives. And I don't like it. I don't want to tolerate it. If I did tolerate it, on some level I'd be accepting it.

I'm intolerant of people who think they're tolerant, but really they're the grossest examples of intolerance.

So have you ever voiced any kind of displeasure with anyone? An annoying celebrity? An overrated pop star? An obnoxious relative? Is that intolerance?

The grossest examples of intolerance? You can't be serious.

filtherton 10-14-2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBua
Isn't she saying that her religon is the right one? Isn't that the point of religon? When she starts killing or calling for the death of the infidels, I will be concerned. I was always taught that Jews are to be pitied cause they failed to recognise the messiah. Isn't that the same thing she just said?


Well, if she's being a bigot because her god told her to, then i guess that's okay.

Plan9 10-14-2007 07:44 PM

Show of hands:

How many people would still have sex with her simply because she's mentally disgusting?

Baraka_Guru 10-14-2007 08:05 PM

*Sheepishly raises his hand*


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