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analog · 09-26-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia

Since when did inconvenience become such a horrendous burden for people to bear?

I think when people start thinking in these kinds of terms the time is ripe for civil disobedience.

I whole-heartedly agree.

Seriously- people have gotten to the point of impatience that taking more than 3 additional seconds to do anything results in all kinds of whining.

Last week, I was ordering a chicken salad somewhere and I was informed at the register that the dressing I wanted wasn't in stock. So I paused a moment to think of my second choice, and I guarantee 10 seconds hadn't gone by when the lady behind me huffed loudly at me. It doesn't even matter if she knew what was going on or not- the issue was that I'd spent less than 10 seconds pausing to think.

debaser · 09-27-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

The microwave gun, I've seen that. That, also, can be easily defended against. A mesh made from a conductive metal can be sown into the inside of a jacket. Of course, that would make tasing a bit of a problem.

Will, if you ever try this, please figure out a way to ground the mesh before it goes from causing pain to causing death.

Plan9 · 09-27-2007, 05:53 PM

Chainmail is the new black.

Cynthetiq · 10-30-2007, 12:52 PM

Follow up

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Student Tasered At Kerry Speech To Avoid Criminal Charges
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ORLANDO, Fla. -- A University of Florida student who was shocked with a Taser after persistently questioning Sen. John Kerry will avoid criminal charges by apologizing and complying with terms of a voluntary 18-month probation, authorities said Tuesday.

Andrew Meyer, 21, yelled "Don't Tase me, bro!" as he scuffled with officers during the campus speech last month. In letters to the university, its president and the campus police department, he apologized, attorney Robert Griscti said.

"I made the decision to supersede the rules, and for that I apologize," Meyer wrote. "I should have acted calmer and obeyed the directives of the officers. If I had, none of the subsequent issues would ever have arisen."

State Attorney William Cervone said Meyer agreed to conduct himself "in a fashion that demonstrates his ability to behave appropriately and without violating the law" during 18 months of probation.

"If he is successful in doing so, the case against him will be closed without formal court action," Cervone said in a statement.

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Cervone said charges of resisting an officer without violence and interfering with a school function would be dismissed if Meyer complied. University police had recommended he be charged with resisting arrest with violence, a felony, and disturbing the peace and interfering with school administrative functions, a misdemeanor.

Meyer demanded a chance to question the former Democratic presidential candidate about the 2004 election and his and President Bush's alleged involvement in the secret Skull and Bones society when they were students at Yale University in the 1960s.

Officers rushed Meyer after he kept shouting questions, finally shocking him in a scuffle captured in at least 19 video clips. Segments distributed online won widespread attention.

Police said Meyer's tone changed when he was placed in a patrol car, where he was recorded telling the officers they didn't do anything wrong, according to a report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. The officers involved returned to work last week after the FDLE determined it was an appropriate use of force.

In his letters, Meyer denied allegations he intended to cause a scene.

"I'm so sorry that I lost my control in that auditorium," he wrote. "I went there to ask an important question. The question of voter disenfranchisement in America cuts to the heart of our democracy, and my failure to act calmly resulted in this important town forum ending without the discourse intended. For that, I am truly sorry."

In a written statement issued Tuesday, Meyer said he also was troubled by America's political polarization of the left against the right: "All of this is false division. We are one people, and once people can forget their differences, we can all start to focus on the issues that truly matter."

Meyer, a communications major, said in his letters he was taking a leave of absence but would return to school in January.

"I am a far more reasoned individual than I was a short while ago, and the reasoned response of the university has helped me a great deal," Meyer wrote.

JohnBua · 10-30-2007, 04:36 PM

I was arrested for basically being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The cops cuffed me and carried me to the car. Did I resist? Nope. Did I mouth off. Nope. I knew they weren't going to listen to me. So I called who I had to call and got it taken care of. I was polite and explained myself in a calmn, polite manner. The cops let me out of the cell and I hung out in an office and listened to Led Zepplin while it was cleared up. I was a shaved head, leather jacket wearing 300 lb guy at the time. Had I fought, I would have been hurt. Not acting like a jackass is a good thing.

leet0n3 · 10-30-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Elphaba

The yellow book that he was waving was Greg Palast's "Armed Madhouse." You don't have to be an asshole (as this guy obviously was) to get heated about the Ohio voter suppression in 2004, one of the topics in the book.

It's a great read and I recommend it.

GREG PALAST FOR THE WIN!!!!

Armed Madhouse is a good read.
This kid must of been pissed off that Kerry did shit to stop Bush, and tried to show off that Kerry is a pussy
and let Bush cheat. Of course when they told him to leave, he's like "Why? What did I do wrong?" and he panicked a bit because he thought he was getting arrested and tried to resist. Of course the rent-a-guard
was like "Fuck this little dumbass", and tasered him. It's not really the rent-a-cops fault though. What would you do if you had to be at some boring conference with some guy named John Kerry and you got paid $15 bucks for the whole thing. Then some kid starts getting emo, and you're like, "Fuck this, lets get his kid". BZZZZT!

waltert · 10-30-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

The microwave gun, I've seen that. That, also, can be easily defended against. A mesh made from a conductive metal can be sown into the inside of a jacket. Of course, that would make tasing a bit of a problem.

no, I think it would work well for tasers too. I'm sure they work by creating a large electric potential between the prongs and having current flow through you in a localized region.

the metal mesh should effectively short the circuit, allowing no current to pass through you.

Rekna · 10-30-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by waltert

no, I think it would work well for tasers too. I'm sure they work by creating a large electric potential between the prongs and having current flow through you in a localized region.

the metal mesh should effectively short the circuit, allowing no current to pass through you.

Thick clothing would also stop a taser.

Seer666 · 10-31-2007, 12:37 AM

Everyone focus on the cops like they started it. His mic got turned off, which means someone signaled the cops to remove this kid. They didn't decide that on their own. They were asked to do what they were higher to do, and enforce the rules of the forum. They, doing what they are paid to do, asked he kid to leave, he refused, so they started to escort him out. He resisted, fought back, so they subdued him. He was told VERY clearly what was about to happen if he didn't stop fighting, he kept fighting, so they followed through with their warning and tazerd him. there is no 1st amendment argument here. This was a privet event. Like all privet events, there are rules to be followed, and he broke them. I am a HUGE fan of the first amendment, but it simple doesn't apply in this case. The blame here all falls squarely on the kids shoulders.

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Seer666 Oh dear God he breeded Location: Arizona	Everyone focus on the cops like they started it. His mic got turned off, which means someone signaled the cops to remove this kid. They didn't decide that on their own. They were asked to do what they were higher to do, and enforce the rules of the forum. They, doing what they are paid to do, asked he kid to leave, he refused, so they started to escort him out. He resisted, fought back, so they subdued him. He was told VERY clearly what was about to happen if he didn't stop fighting, he kept fighting, so they followed through with their warning and tazerd him. there is no 1st amendment argument here. This was a privet event. Like all privet events, there are rules to be followed, and he broke them. I am a HUGE fan of the first amendment, but it simple doesn't apply in this case. The blame here all falls squarely on the kids shoulders. __________________ Bad spellers of the world untie!!! I am the one you warned me of I seem to have misplaced the bullet with your name on it, but I have a whole box addressed to occupant.

10-30-2007, 04:36 PM	#125 (permalink)
JohnBua Banned	I was arrested for basically being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The cops cuffed me and carried me to the car. Did I resist? Nope. Did I mouth off. Nope. I knew they weren't going to listen to me. So I called who I had to call and got it taken care of. I was polite and explained myself in a calmn, polite manner. The cops let me out of the cell and I hung out in an office and listened to Led Zepplin while it was cleared up. I was a shaved head, leather jacket wearing 300 lb guy at the time. Had I fought, I would have been hurt. Not acting like a jackass is a good thing.