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Old 03-28-2004, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WOW!!! 10x

found this vid just a little bit ago, its rather large, but pretty fucking crazy. and this shit is real by the way.

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Old 03-28-2004, 09:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Remarkable! Those things are incredibly difficult to operate. This guy is a veritable genius and obvious master. Great link!
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Old 03-28-2004, 09:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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watching it now, by far some awesome control
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Old 03-28-2004, 11:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Totally and utterly nuts.
When he had it hovering like an inch off the ground upside down... quite impressive.
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Old 03-29-2004, 01:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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that whole video had me in awe. i just sat there thinking "how the........what the......holy......dddaaaammmmnnnnn." i had no idea those things could do anything like they did. flying vertical, upside-down....you name it, it did it, and it did it flawlessly.
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Old 03-29-2004, 02:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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That's amazing!

It also looks impossible!
Anyone with a gift for physics care to explain how rotors that counter gravity to get it off the ground do not push it into the ground when its flying upside down?

(it'd be neat to see an Apache do that...)
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Old 03-29-2004, 09:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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That's amazing!

It also looks impossible!
Anyone with a gift for physics care to explain how rotors that counter gravity to get it off the ground do not push it into the ground when its flying upside down?

(it'd be neat to see an Apache do that...)
now that you bring that up....I would like someone to explain that!
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Old 03-29-2004, 10:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Mabye they reverse the spin of the rotor?
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Old 03-29-2004, 10:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Mabye they reverse the spin of the rotor?
That was my first thought too, but he would be doing that mighty fast!
Wouldn't that be more obvious then?
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Old 03-29-2004, 10:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I think the pitch of the rotor blades can be changed. When it was hovering upside down, you could see the exhaust being pulled toward the blades rather than being blown away. Most of the time during transitions, you could see a slight hesitation, and I think that was when the pitch of the blade changed.
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Old 03-29-2004, 10:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thats pretty impressive....i bet that guy has practiced that for year...
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Old 03-29-2004, 11:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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it's impressive.. the only thing that made me doubt the authenticity is the near perfect trailing of the camera. I find myself believing it though, seeing as the tracking could be done with some video editing, no problem.
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Old 03-29-2004, 11:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think the pitch of the rotor blades can be changed.
That is indeed plausible... that could be changed quicker than rotor spin direction.
Thanks for the tip!
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Old 03-29-2004, 06:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I think the pitch of the rotor blades can be changed. When it was hovering upside down, you could see the exhaust being pulled toward the blades rather than being blown away. Most of the time during transitions, you could see a slight hesitation, and I think that was when the pitch of the blade changed.

you basically hit it on the money. i do not know about these rc helicopters, but on a real helicopter the blades change the angle of attack or pitch. an example:

when a helicopter is on the ground and is preparing to take off, the rotors are actually spinning at the same speed as if it was flying. to lift off the ground the pilot pulls back on the collective, (which controls the pitch of the blades). so when you watch a movie and a helicopter makes a louder noise, as if the blades were speeding up, when it is taking off. the noise you here is fake. the rotors are actually spinning at the same speed.

as for the rc copter being able to do all those maneuvers, the only reason i can give is that it is alot smaller therefore it can handle more g forces.

cool vid though.
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Old 03-29-2004, 08:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I don't know shit about RC 'copters, but I've always wanted one, and that was some very impressive flying.
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:27 AM   #16 (permalink)
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That was pretty crazy, how is that possible.
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Old 03-30-2004, 05:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ok, I read all your comments and the damn link is dead.
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Old 03-30-2004, 08:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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new link
http://www.xar.ph/alan_vegasfunflydemo_2004.wmv
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Old 03-30-2004, 08:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thats fucking absurd. I want one just to hover outside of peoples' windows.
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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looks like they play it backwards.
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 04-01-2004, 01:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Both links don't seem to work. Here's a new one.
http://games.eof.net/ashke/alan_vega...ydemo_2004.wmv
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Old 04-01-2004, 02:34 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I didn't know that that kind of stuff was possible. Cool.
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Old 04-01-2004, 02:58 PM   #24 (permalink)
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That was cool as fuck.

Now I wanna see it done with a real helicopter.
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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that reminds me, how much do one of those things cost
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Old 04-02-2004, 07:10 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Damned impressive.

Does anyone know how the fuel systems in these work? I'd think if it were a typical tube into the bottom of a fuel tank, the coptor would have fuel starvation when it was in anything other than a normal attitude. It was anything but normal throughout the entire video.
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Old 04-02-2004, 11:03 PM   #27 (permalink)
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very fuckin cool

note to self: dont EVER play against that guy in any console video-games.
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Old 04-10-2004, 02:42 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 04-10-2004, 09:18 AM   #29 (permalink)
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as for the rc copter being able to do all those maneuvers, the only reason i can give is that it is alot smaller therefore it can handle more g forces.
Unlike areal heli, I do believe the speed of the motor can be changed, as well as the angle of the blade being variable.
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Old 04-10-2004, 11:45 AM   #30 (permalink)
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All 3 links above are now dead. I think I've seen this one, but would like to check it anyway.

This is one reason I'm hesitant about posting links from other places, they go dead too often, probably bandwidth issues. There are a lot of people who hang out here. I don't have a huge amount of webspace, but my bandwidth is unlimited which is a good thing. When I want to share something really good, I will more than likely just host it myself.
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Old 04-12-2004, 12:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, I finally found a link that works, glad I did, had not seen it before. Fucking Awesome!

http://dsc.tudelft.nl/~spaans/alan_v...ydemo_2004.wmv

And a story about the young pilot...

http://www.littlerotors.com/articles...0802/index.asp
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Old 04-16-2004, 09:14 AM   #32 (permalink)
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nope - none werky...
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Old 04-16-2004, 09:37 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Thats really cool, but they've got to be playing the tape backwards. I can't seem to understand how its upside down and then it GAINS altitude. Seems it would be the other way around. Also, it seems to have unnatural movements.

I dunno really, just a guess
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Old 04-16-2004, 09:55 AM   #34 (permalink)
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it worked for me. Holy CRAP. how the hell can he do that? the main rotor blades much change pitch incredibly fast to make that possible.
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Old 04-16-2004, 10:54 AM   #35 (permalink)
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it worked for me. Holy CRAP. how the hell can he do that? the main rotor blades much change pitch incredibly fast to make that possible.
The pitch of the main rotor blade is more than likely changed by a big ass servo which can make 60 degrees of movement in a little less than .10 sec.
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