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Old 10-09-2007, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What size engine?

Its a personal preference thing to many, for plenty different reasons. I was just curious what the general consensus was here.

What do you want under your hood, in the vehicle you drive daily? V8 torque, 4 cylinder revs, 6 cylinder medium, 4 cylinder gas mileage? I realize some people could care less about being fast....

I would like to say I prefer a V8, having always loved domestic muscle cars, but I've found myself wanting turbo 6's here lately. I've got a Grand National and a Typhoon, and wouldn't mind picking up a nice Supra. Its just something about them. You can make plenty top end power thanks to the turbo, but still have some low end since you're not dealing with the small displacement of a 4 cylinder. And to top it off you can still manage 20+ MPG.

What do you want under the hood?

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Old 10-09-2007, 11:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I like I4s 2.5L or smaller so long as they have forced induction, preferably a turbo. Naturally aspirated cars are boring. They manage to be really perfect for smaller cars, and they still get pretty decent mileage. In my opinion, they're the most efficient way to enjoy driving a car. Subaru boxer engines have impressed me a lot, as they remind me a lot of Porsche I6s. Can you imagine pushing 250 hp and still managing to get 28 mpg if you don't drive your car like a track car? Good deal.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I wish my NSX was a V8 with another 100 horsepower. It's not that I'm unhappy with what it has, but I think it would have been an even better car with more grunt.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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n/a 4-bangers cars can be fun...but you gotta rev the snot outta them to do it.

I prefer turbo'd 4 bangers around 2 litres. Large enough to make good power, small enough to have a high redline.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The new WRX STI info has been released. 304 hp from a 16v 2.0L boxer engine with a twin-scroll turbo mated to a 6-speed manual. Still one of the ugliest cars ever built. Why can't Subaru make good looking cars?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/09/o...preza-wrx-sti/
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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1.5L 4-cyl is perfect for my daily.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The new WRX STI info has been released. 304 hp from a 16v 2.0L boxer engine with a twin-scroll turbo mated to a 6-speed manual. Still one of the ugliest cars ever built. Why can't Subaru make good looking cars?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/09/o...preza-wrx-sti/
Keep in mind, thats the JDM version, the US has the 2.5L.

"There is no replacement for discplacement."

That being said, I no longer have a V8
Regular RX8 (1.3L rotary) and MazdaSpeed 3 (2.3L DISI Turbo 4)

But given the choice, I'll take a V8 (depending on which)

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Old 10-09-2007, 09:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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3L I5
6.9L V8

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Old 10-09-2007, 10:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Nice variety, and I've seen a coule answers that resemble the traits of another car I enjoy. I've got a 90 Talon, 4g63. Decent sized 4 with a turbo

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Old 10-09-2007, 10:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Subaru boxer engines have impressed me a lot, as they remind me a lot of Porsche I6s. Can you imagine pushing 250 hp and still managing to get 28 mpg if you don't drive your car like a track car? Good deal.

I love my 06 wrx turbo 2.5 !
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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My last 3 cars have been older I6 BMWs a 2.0, a 2.3 & the latest a 3.5, all manual gearboxes, all fun

The 3.5 gets reasonable economy on the highway but is horrible in the city, maybe it has something to do with the driver

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Old 10-10-2007, 03:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Personally I like all different kinds of engines. My choice of engine would be based on the particular vehicle. I have a jeep cherokee with the 4.0 I-6 that I wouldnt swap out for ANYTHING because that engine has nice torque, and is near bullet-proof. We have a Chrysler Town and Country with a small 3.3 V-6 and I am happy with it as well. Now I am looking for a classic Mustang to restore, and there is no way I would pick one that didnt come original with a 428 V-8!.... Guess it just depends on the vehicle.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
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'94 Chevrolet S10 lowrider with a C5 Z06 in it.
It's not a Chevy lowrider, but my buddy has an RX-7, the '93 FD, but with a worked LS1 motor in it. That thing hauls ass ...weight is under 2800lbs and that V8 motor only weighs about 60lbs more than the original rotary, and with the motor sitting back a bit due to the custom subframe assembly the weight distribution is better than original, with the chassis maintaining its otherwise excellent handling characteristics on a road course and it'll run in the 10's at the drags.

Yesterday he and I were both at Pocono for a track day, he got second place in the time trial, I got third in my Supra. So as mentioned by the OP, a Supra is an awesome vehicle ...I have a perhaps biased opinion that the 4th gen "MkIV" is by far the best but they still cost more than many people are willing to pay for that old of a car.

I've always loved big American V8's but maybe just to be different, I ended up going down a different road as my buddies all got their muscle cars back in the late 1960's when we were all 17 to 20 years old. They got 440 R/T Chargers, Hemi GTX, Road Runners, Corvette's, GTO's, Chevelle's, etc. I got a '67 XKE Jag ...very smooth inline 6, 4.2L, great balance, under 2500lbs; we also built a stripped out drag car out of a HenryJ and used a 6cyl Chevy truck motor, home-made manifold with Rochester trips (carbs), headers, etc. ran H-gas and G-gas at the drags. As I got older now I have the Supra ...super smooth inline 6, 3L, twin sequential turbos until recently when I did some more mods with a higher flow single turbo; in track trim/boost like I drove yesterday (~24psi boost) it has well over 500rwhp and it's very responsive since it's a relatively small turbo compared to what most guys throw on Supras. The car has super build quality and is bullet proof even with the mods I have. I think it still looks very good especially considering it's a 1995 car.

Normally cruising down the highway at 80mph+, I'm out of boost and will get at least mid 20's mpg; at Pocono yesterday I burned up almost 20 gallons of racegas at over $8/gal.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:24 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Still getting mixed answers w00t....Now I'll post up what I've got lol. I've got a 70 mustang with a mild 302 and a 99 TransAm with a built 347 in it, currently going back together now with 2 hefty N2O kits, a 92 Typhoon, an 87 Grand National, a 99 Accord, and a 90 Talon TSi. So, I really mean it when I say I like a variety . I'm a big fan of tuning to be honest, because in many cases, a performance based vehicle, when tuned right, should still be able to pull decent MPG's and still be fun to drive

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Old 10-10-2007, 08:37 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I'd never drive a V8. I don't like the weight.

I4 2.0s are fine for my daily driver, but a V6 would be (and is) nice, also.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:52 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I honestly have no idea how big my engine is. The car I picked was the size I wanted with useful storage capacity, AWD, 4 doors, and had good gas mileage. And when I drove it around, it had sufficient power for what I wanted.
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:39 AM   #18 (permalink)
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A high tech 4 cyl for a daily driver and a low tech large horse v8 for the weekends works for me. I really like the vtech honda engines and if I could find/afford it my fun ride would would have a flathead v8.
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:54 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I honestly have no idea how big my engine is. The car I picked was the size I wanted with useful storage capacity, AWD, 4 doors, and had good gas mileage. And when I drove it around, it had sufficient power for what I wanted.
Subaru?
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:10 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Subaru?
That was my first guess.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'd never drive a V8. I don't like the weight.

I4 2.0s are fine for my daily driver, but a V6 would be (and is) nice, also.
Weight huh...what about the LS1...barely weighs more than a 1.3 liter rotary engine because it is all aluminum. Or how about the new M3s v8...it will be the lightest V8 ever.

Weight isnt always a problem, weight distribution is importantl.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:20 PM   #22 (permalink)
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V8s can often not only be more heavy, but require heavier support. Heaftier tranny, axel, etc.

The LS1 is an amazing engine.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Heavier parts to handle the added torque, but that it to be expected from any performance engine.

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Old 10-10-2007, 04:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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There's nothing like the sound of an Olds v8, loved the power of the 2 I had. Gave lots of thought to actually getting a Cutlass Cruiser as a daily driver about 6 or 7 years ago. I know how to do most of the work on those beasts, but the mpgs would have been hard to take. Took the opposite tact and now own a 99 Jetta TDI. 1.9L displacement, 48 mpg, and with very little work, just as much torque as a v8. I love running stop light to stop light with ricers and trucks, and merging on the highway is a blast. Dual mass flywheel weight means slower shifting, so outright racing won't happen, but from anything above a slow crawl my sleeper surprises a lot of people.168k and still running strong too, just like an Olds Rocket with soot.
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:28 PM   #25 (permalink)
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diesels can be nice as well, almost forgot about em

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:06 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'll take a V8 please. Yes they're inefficient, but I dont like having to wring the shit out of an engine to get it to move. I'll never drive a vehicle that doesnt have 8 cylinders, unless its diesel in which case Ill settle for 6.

I dont have a car, just a truck. Prolly never will have a car, its a welder thing. We all drive huge domestic trucks

Has anyone ever seen a CHevy Luv with a 350 in it? Omfg they're a hoot.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The new WRX STI info has been released. 304 hp from a 16v 2.0L boxer engine with a twin-scroll turbo mated to a 6-speed manual. Still one of the ugliest cars ever built. Why can't Subaru make good looking cars?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/09/o...preza-wrx-sti/
Yes very ugly. I still like the 2002 wrx look the best. It took along time to grow on me tho.

I am a I4 kind of guy. Turbo would make it nicer.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:36 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I've got a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, a turbo-charged V-6. I've very happy with its performance, has a butt load of torque. And I can get 24+ mpg on the highway.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:37 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Pontiac Vibe - actually, I guess it has 5 doors. (My wife has the Subaru Legacy sedan, however, no you aren't far off.)
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:26 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Wow, I didn't think anybody drove the Vibe.

That and that ugly ass Aztek.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:34 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Vibes aren't bad. They get decent mileage and have decent interior room.

Azteks, on the other hand, exist in defiance of god's will. They're a freak of nature. They took all the worst part of animals, like that one Twilight Zone episode, but instead of it ironically being man, it was a beast of the most hideous variety. It was a golem or grotesque monster. A hellion of pure evil and bad taste.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:40 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Retarded inbred-gone-abortion horror story domestic vehicles that give Americans a bad name:

Chevy Avalanche / Cadillac Escalade -> 8.1 L 325 hp V8
Pontiac Aztek / Buick Rendezvous -> 3.4 L V6 @ 4043 lbs

I'd rather have anal sex with an African black rhino than drive one of those.

I mean, seriously...

DON'T BUY THESE VEHICLES. KILL YOURSELF FIRST.

I'm so insulted by them simply existing in the same reality as me that I'm going NEAR another species in a sexual manner.

The first pair get like .8 MPG with their American Ignorance engines (gas'll never run out, n'yuck!).

The second pair have less balls (power-to-weight) than Lance Armstrong (putt-putt-putt-cough-oh-fuck-it).

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Pontiac Vibe - actually, I guess it has 5 doors. (My wife has the Subaru Legacy sedan, however, no you aren't far off.)
Hatch / trunk isn't a door.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I've got a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, a turbo-charged V-6. I've very happy with its performance, has a butt load of torque. And I can get 24+ mpg on the highway.

Did you turbo it? Because GTP's come with a roots style supercharger

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Old 10-11-2007, 01:41 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Hondas on ITBs tbh

I love the feeling of revving a car really hard to get its potential.

BMW 535D
Honda Accord Type R
BMW m3 (e30) -> best car ever imo (not so much power, but race bred precision).
Renault 5 GT Turbo

All the kinda cars I'm into..
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Did you turbo it? Because GTP's come with a roots style supercharger

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Sorry, I meant superchraged.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Did you turbo it? Because GTP's come with a roots style supercharger

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Oddly enough, in 1989, Pontiac teamed up with ASC/McLaren to build a turbocharged version of the Grand Prix, that they produced for two years.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:41 PM   #37 (permalink)
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2.0L Supercharged Ion Redline here. 245 horsepower and 29mpg if you can stay off the gas is not a bad combo. I am digging the subies lately, awd sounds like fun in the winters.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:55 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Sorry, I meant superchraged.


Oh, still nice. I got excited, was hoping you turbo'd it, was gonna ask for pics lol


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Old 10-14-2007, 01:48 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I drive a 2.4L 4-cylinder turbo Dodge Neon SRT-4. I test drove an LS2 GTO and I wasn't impressed. N/A V8s aren't as fun as turbo 4-cylinders if you ask me...they don't have the push-you-back effect that makes driving fast cars fun. The gas mileage sucks ass if you put out its 5.3 second 0 to 60 MPH often but if you drive it without using the turbo then the mileage is in the mid twenties.

If I didn't have a fast car, I would definitely go for a huge ass V8 though. Caprice Classics, Towncars, Crown Vics, etc. are my cup of tea when driving a car that is supposed to haul you around instead of slaughtering people at stop lights.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:42 PM   #40 (permalink)
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My last 3 cars have been older I6 BMWs a 2.0, a 2.3 & the latest a 3.5, all manual gearboxes, all fun

The 3.5 gets reasonable economy on the highway but is horrible in the city, maybe it has something to do with the driver

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~25 highway Took it up to 140 MPH the other day. Can't wait to put a turbo in it . It's just so smooth and fun to drive, not to mention elegant as hell.
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