I think really fucked up (got into a fight in front of my gf) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Strange Famous · 10-30-2009, 05:00 PM

christ, there should be a way to block the internet when youre drunk.

Xerxys · 10-30-2009, 05:18 PM

Even if you don't want professional help, have you at least googled "anger management tricks"?

highthief · 10-30-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous

She used to see the good in me, now probably she just see's a fat fucking huge violent hooligan, who'll spark a guy over nothing, I'm just basically a big fat fucker who kicks off at any provocation, what the fuck is there to love about that. I really fucked shit up.

At least you know you're a jerk.

Stop drinking.

LoganSnake · 10-30-2009, 05:40 PM

Have you tried...talking to her and asking how she feels before you jump to conclusions?

Also, you need some anger management help. This isn't the first instance in which you get into a fight, or want to fight, or want to prove that you can fight.

Willravel · 10-30-2009, 05:52 PM

Stay off the sauce.

Slims · 10-30-2009, 06:43 PM

What's the problem?

Seems like you tried to do the right thing and were attacked. Not your fault the guy who jacked you was a pussy. He started a fight he wasn't able to finish.

Either your girlfriend will get over it and appreciate the fact you are not a wus, or you can get a head start looking for someone who is worth being your significant other.

If my wife did anything other than help me as best as she were able in such a situation I would be very disappointed. Violence sometimes happens, sometimes when it probably shouldn't. So what? life goes on.

I don't see how this would significantly alter her opinion of you, it was just a quick bar-fight. If you had waded through a little girls school crushing heads things would be different, but you were provoked and it was a stand-up fight between two men, no further comment necessary.

Also, if you feel you are a fat violent hooligan then why don't you lose some weight? It is a lot easier to exercise a little personal discipline by dieting/regular exercise than it is to will yourself into becoming a big pussy. You may still be a Violent Hooligan, but you will look good while doing it.

dlish · 10-30-2009, 07:01 PM

what you didnt say was how much you had drunk

stay off the piss dude

not sure how anger management classes can help since i dont particularly think you were entirely at fault.

Plan9 · 10-30-2009, 08:41 PM

Don't let modern society's Dr. Phil brainwashing keep you from doing what needs to be done, man. You didn't initiate, you defended yourself, right?

Don't justify defending yourself. Your drinking and anger issues may be a problem, but I see nothing wrong with a little BFT now and then.

It keeps people in line. If the guy was stupid enough to start a fight he couldn't finish, you educated him.

...

How did society get to the point where a bar brawl is somehow a big scary sign of psychological problems? Amazing.

A man should be comfortable with the use of force... so he knows how and when to apply it and what to do when he is a target.

I'm saddened that this generation is okay with being bullied and features a lotta don't-worry-somebody-else-will-fix-that.

As long as everybody goes home in one piece... there is nothing inherently wrong about the field expedient physical method.

Stare At The Sun · 10-30-2009, 11:10 PM

There isn't really much else that can be said here that hasn't been said.

However, some people react differently to different types of alcohol. Whiskey and such makes some people irate. That might not be the case with you, but if you are a different (happy/sad) drunk when drinking certain types of alcohol, then don't drink that type!

Also, remember your girlfriend. She probably won't want to keep dating you if you don't take charge of your own life and get your anger under control.

Violence should be a last resort. Always try and take a step back from the situation, and realize that any bar fight could get very serious very fast. What if he would have fallen, knocked his head, and gotten seriously injured? What if he would have had a knife, and stabbed you? Or what if he was a professional MMA fighter, and broke your jaw in a punch?

Question you should always ask yourself, is it worth it? Will you really care about this in a week? In a month?

Don't forget the criminal side of this either. Violence is illegal, and even if you claim (perhaps rightly) self defense, do you really want the hassle, and fiscal expense of hiring a lawyer, going to court, missing work, etc.

Just take all that stress, anger, and resentment out of your life. Realize that this is your life, you're in control. Don't let anger rule you. You're in control.

Take three deep breaths, and walk away. And when you walk away, smile, because you're totally in control. The result of walking away will almost always be better than getting in a fight. It's not worth it. You're more mature than that, and so is society.

Your gf wants to see your softer caring side, not your gladiator side.

Vigilante · 10-31-2009, 12:06 AM

Sounds like you're still in your 20's. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'll tell you what I've learned over the years.

It's not your fight. Take that literally.

Instead of walking in the middle like you own the joint, just nudge your bud, say "It's not worth it man" and brace him a little in case he's not quite there yet. I've broken up a barfight or two and have never been in one through my own actions. If he wants to fight and you have his back, then it's your job to jump in if someone else wants to, or pull him away when it's over. Taking over is a jackass move, usually.

My wife likes my rough side. If some dude said something to her, she expects me to kick his ass. Silly high maintenance girl

It's obvious your girl isn't like that though. Consider that the next time you feel like pissing higher on someone else's tree for kicks

dippin · 10-31-2009, 12:42 AM

Only thing you can do, really, is talk to her.

Now, whether or not you were in the right and you were defending yourself depend on that "little shove" at the start of it all.

Strange Famous · 10-31-2009, 02:26 AM

Obviously I shouldnt have posted this online, I was awfully drunk last night... I wish I could delete this whole thing to be honest.

In terms of how things went, obviously she wasnt particularly impressed, but I was being a bit over dramatic when I first talked about it.

wooÐs · 10-31-2009, 04:19 AM

damn editing

dlish · 10-31-2009, 04:59 AM

modspeak: we cant delete threads im afraid, but members are entitled to edit their posts as they please.

on a personal note, i still think you should think about reducing your alcohol consumption. period.

Also, chicks dont dig violent guys and drunk violent guys. a recipe for disaster for them if they ever intend to enter into a long term relationship with that person. Think hard about what means more to you and decide from there

good luck.

LoganSnake · 10-31-2009, 07:21 AM

wooÐs · 10-31-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dlish

modspeak: we cant delete threads im afraid, but members are entitled to edit their posts as they please.

Well this thread's meaningless for anyone who catches it after the editing. I'd think deleting the thread would make the most sense. And mods have definitely deleted my threads before, as well as all the posts within that thread.

SecretMethod70 · 10-31-2009, 08:16 AM

Moved or closed maybe, but I just double checked and don't see any that have been deleted.

Speaking of closed, though, you're right that this thread is meaningless now...

10-30-2009, 05:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	edited christ, there should be a way to block the internet when youre drunk. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas Last edited by Strange Famous; 10-31-2009 at 02:09 AM..

10-30-2009, 05:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	Have you tried...talking to her and asking how she feels before you jump to conclusions? Also, you need some anger management help. This isn't the first instance in which you get into a fight, or want to fight, or want to prove that you can fight. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

10-30-2009, 06:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	What's the problem? Seems like you tried to do the right thing and were attacked. Not your fault the guy who jacked you was a pussy. He started a fight he wasn't able to finish. Either your girlfriend will get over it and appreciate the fact you are not a wus, or you can get a head start looking for someone who is worth being your significant other. If my wife did anything other than help me as best as she were able in such a situation I would be very disappointed. Violence sometimes happens, sometimes when it probably shouldn't. So what? life goes on. I don't see how this would significantly alter her opinion of you, it was just a quick bar-fight. If you had waded through a little girls school crushing heads things would be different, but you were provoked and it was a stand-up fight between two men, no further comment necessary. Also, if you feel you are a fat violent hooligan then why don't you lose some weight? It is a lot easier to exercise a little personal discipline by dieting/regular exercise than it is to will yourself into becoming a big pussy. You may still be a Violent Hooligan, but you will look good while doing it. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

10-30-2009, 07:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	what you didnt say was how much you had drunk stay off the piss dude not sure how anger management classes can help since i dont particularly think you were entirely at fault. __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

10-30-2009, 08:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Don't let modern society's Dr. Phil brainwashing keep you from doing what needs to be done, man. You didn't initiate, you defended yourself, right? Don't justify defending yourself. Your drinking and anger issues may be a problem, but I see nothing wrong with a little BFT now and then. It keeps people in line. If the guy was stupid enough to start a fight he couldn't finish, you educated him. ... How did society get to the point where a bar brawl is somehow a big scary sign of psychological problems? Amazing. A man should be comfortable with the use of force... so he knows how and when to apply it and what to do when he is a target. I'm saddened that this generation is okay with being bullied and features a lotta don't-worry-somebody-else-will-fix-that. As long as everybody goes home in one piece... there is nothing inherently wrong about the field expedient physical method. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 10-30-2009 at 09:18 PM..

10-30-2009, 05:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Xerxys Junkie Location: My head.	Even if you don't want professional help, have you at least googled "anger management tricks"?

10-30-2009, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Stay off the sauce.

10-30-2009, 11:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	There isn't really much else that can be said here that hasn't been said. However, some people react differently to different types of alcohol. Whiskey and such makes some people irate. That might not be the case with you, but if you are a different (happy/sad) drunk when drinking certain types of alcohol, then don't drink that type! Also, remember your girlfriend. She probably won't want to keep dating you if you don't take charge of your own life and get your anger under control. Violence should be a last resort. Always try and take a step back from the situation, and realize that any bar fight could get very serious very fast. What if he would have fallen, knocked his head, and gotten seriously injured? What if he would have had a knife, and stabbed you? Or what if he was a professional MMA fighter, and broke your jaw in a punch? Question you should always ask yourself, is it worth it? Will you really care about this in a week? In a month? Don't forget the criminal side of this either. Violence is illegal, and even if you claim (perhaps rightly) self defense, do you really want the hassle, and fiscal expense of hiring a lawyer, going to court, missing work, etc. Just take all that stress, anger, and resentment out of your life. Realize that this is your life, you're in control. Don't let anger rule you. You're in control. Take three deep breaths, and walk away. And when you walk away, smile, because you're totally in control. The result of walking away will almost always be better than getting in a fight. It's not worth it. You're more mature than that, and so is society. Your gf wants to see your softer caring side, not your gladiator side.

10-31-2009, 12:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Vigilante Broken Arrow Location: US	Sounds like you're still in your 20's. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'll tell you what I've learned over the years. It's not your fight. Take that literally. Instead of walking in the middle like you own the joint, just nudge your bud, say "It's not worth it man" and brace him a little in case he's not quite there yet. I've broken up a barfight or two and have never been in one through my own actions. If he wants to fight and you have his back, then it's your job to jump in if someone else wants to, or pull him away when it's over. Taking over is a jackass move, usually. My wife likes my rough side. If some dude said something to her, she expects me to kick his ass. Silly high maintenance girl It's obvious your girl isn't like that though. Consider that the next time you feel like pissing higher on someone else's tree for kicks __________________ We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -Winston Churchill

10-31-2009, 12:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
dippin Crazy, indeed Location: the ether	Only thing you can do, really, is talk to her. Now, whether or not you were in the right and you were defending yourself depend on that "little shove" at the start of it all.

10-31-2009, 02:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Obviously I shouldnt have posted this online, I was awfully drunk last night... I wish I could delete this whole thing to be honest. In terms of how things went, obviously she wasnt particularly impressed, but I was being a bit over dramatic when I first talked about it. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

10-31-2009, 04:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
wooÐs Sitting in a tree Location: Atlanta	damn editing

10-31-2009, 04:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	modspeak: we cant delete threads im afraid, but members are entitled to edit their posts as they please. on a personal note, i still think you should think about reducing your alcohol consumption. period. Also, chicks dont dig violent guys and drunk violent guys. a recipe for disaster for them if they ever intend to enter into a long term relationship with that person. Think hard about what means more to you and decide from there good luck. __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

10-31-2009, 07:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	.... __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

10-31-2009, 08:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Moved or closed maybe, but I just double checked and don't see any that have been deleted. Speaking of closed, though, you're right that this thread is meaningless now... __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling