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snowy · 09-18-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Painted

Spokane itself is a very old looking town, there aren't a lot of new buildings/stuff, and it is pretty conservative. It's also a lot poorer than Seattle/Portland. Not...ghetto poor, but almost in a white trash kind of way. Oh yeah, it's 98% white...It depends on what you're looking for. Western Washington is more urban, has a lot of high-paying jobs, is more expensive, and is far more crowded. Spokane is less expensive, also urban (but not world-class urban), mildly conservative, and definatley less crowded. Both are pretty cool places. Visit.

I love Spokane. It's a little too extreme for me temperature-wise, but it's such a nice place to visit in the summer. We went there for conferences every year and my aunt used to live in the area. Riverfront Park: http://www.spokaneriverfrontpark.com/ is definitely a great place to visit and have some fun--regardless of the time of year. I got kicked off the carousel when I was 11 because I kept getting the brass ring, lol.

They've updated a lot of the downtown and while it's not as urban as Seattle or Portland, the shopping areas downtown are pretty new and nice compared to how they used to be. http://www.riverparksquare.com/

North Spokane is pretty much one giant strip mall, but some of the outlying areas, like Cheney and so on, are very beautiful with great lakes for water skiing and fishing. Coeur d'Alene is also not far.

If anyone visits Spokane, I highly recommend eating at the Onion: http://www.theonion.biz/ They have the best onion rings I've ever had.

And it is a lot cheaper than the west side, but as said, it's very white, more conservative, and not as temperate.

Jason762 · 09-20-2006, 08:55 AM

Medusa, I was told about Utah, and it's Mormons who tend to cast a doubful eye towards you if you're not one of them. I have family in Utah, but... the Mormon thing.

Painted, and onesnowyowl, thanks for the info on North Spokane. Interesting stuff, but doesn't sound like my kinda place...

On a different matter, I remember visiting a link LONG ago where you completed a rather long quiz and it gave you a list of cities that matched you. All I remember about it was a little dog (Spot? Something like that) and a forrest green background (I think :-/). Anyone know what site I'm talking about?

Jason762 · 09-22-2006, 11:07 AM

Okay I'm looking at tickets to Bellingham, WA. Considering staying for a few days.

I'm wondering about the "best" way to get there. Bus, train, or airline.

Bus takes 23 hours and 20 minutes and costs $ 274 round trip.

Train is 22 hours 33 minutes and $ 168 round trip. Only goes to Seattle though.

Airline is a 2 hours and $ 406.50.

I've never ridden bus or train so I don't know what that's like.

I selected Jan 1st to Jan 10th. Is that a good time to visit?

Any good hotels in Bellingham? What are some reccomended places to visit?

Thanks!

Temporary_User · 10-01-2006, 12:30 AM

Jason, How would you describe yourself?
I grew up in Washington
Seattle through the early years then up to Bellingham
Bellingham is somewhat small - 100,000
I would describe the people as hippie, outdoorsie, or wanna be gangster.

Obviously being 100,000 people there isnt any major sports teams. have to head to Seattle or Vancouver for those (Bellingham is right in the middle @ 1.5 hrs away)
I would say Bham has a drug problem, but that is me going to HS there and knowing everyone. I'm sure if you moved there and got in the right crowed you would have no problems with this.

personally since I've experienced bham before, if I was to move to Wash and pick a place to live from the above list, I would take a look @ woodinville.
or actual Seattle if nightlife and big city is for you.

oh btw
google seached it:
http://www.findyourspot.com/

snowy · 10-01-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Temporary_User

I would say Bham has a drug problem, but that is me going to HS there and knowing everyone. I'm sure if you moved there and got in the right crowed you would have no problems with this.

EVERYWHERE has a drug problem these days. Meth is ravaging where I live, where my parents live, where friends have moved to. Having worked in drug/alcohol treatment, I can tell you that we got kids from EVERYWHERE in the PacNW--no community, no matter where you live, is exempt from meth or other drugs. Most people are just blissfully unaware of how bad the problem truly is in their community.

ngdawg · 10-01-2006, 12:20 PM

Odd.....thought my post was here....anyway...

I'm very partial to North Carolina, Tennessee and Missouri. The cost of living in all 3 is very good and the cities are cleaner than any here on the east coast. Tennessee and Missouri are both landlocked, but you have the Smokie Mountains in Tennessee and the Ozarks in part of Mo and the plains of Kansas to the west.
What I've seen of South Carolina I liked too. Maybe I was a southern belle in a previous life

Jason762 · 10-03-2006, 11:13 PM

Temp, what am I like? Well first off I'm a Gemini so I have two personalities.

I like people and activities, but prefer closeness over numbers. I have only a handful of friends, but they are VERY close. I get along well with everyone, but only a select few know the true me.

I also like to be a loner. There are times I've gotten grumpy and that's when I need isolation time from people, civilization, anad the world. Thats when I go camping.

A personality test reveals I am an introvert. That explains that.

Drugs? Pssh, I live near Oakland. Infamous for drugs/crime/you name it.

NgDawg, I considered the east coast but the population seems so dense over there, it'd be hard to get jobs and the like (don't plan on working at CostCo forever!)

Jason762 · 10-05-2006, 02:17 PM

Found some interesting information about Bellingham.

http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA1.gif

http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA2.gif

http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA3.gif

http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA4.gif

Grasshopper Green · 10-07-2006, 09:42 AM

Addressing the train/plane/bus thing...

If you can afford to fly, fly. I took the Greyhound to Southern California from Salt Lake about 8 years ago, thinking I'd save some money instead of flying. The trip was about the same length as yours...21 hours I think. Boy, did I regret it...it was an awful experience. I've never ridden a train for more than a few hours, so I don't have much experience with that. Take a plane over a bus if you can...the $125 extra "savings" on the bus is totally not worth it.

FlatLand Flyer · 10-11-2006, 10:28 PM

Haven't looked at this thread for a while and now some places have been mentioned that I can input on.

I grew up in Spokane, but moved away 5 years ago for school and now live in Charlotte, NC. I miss it dearly as it will always be home. It does offer almost everything. You seem outdoorsy and I think Spokane would fit the bill for you. Mountains, desert nearby, huge amount of clean lakes, sunshine, some snow, hot and dry summers and 2 Costcos. Cost of living is pretty good. A previous poster mentioned negative temperatures in the winter. It is true that occassionally (once every handful of years) that might happen, but if it snows it is usually gone the next day except for the hills. Spokane is also a MUCH drier climate than western WA. Don't let people fool you on that. Traffic is a million times better also.

North Idaho is an outdoorsman's wetdream. If you want to occasionally find isolation, the drive won't be long to get there.

Since you already live on the west coast, find plane tickets for Southwest airlines. They should be cheap.

Kali · 10-12-2006, 08:24 AM

Connecticut, for obvious reasons.

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jpmck03 · 10-25-2006, 09:10 AM

ngdawg · 10-25-2006, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason762

Temp, what am I like? Well first off I'm a Gemini so I have two personalities.

I like people and activities, but prefer closeness over numbers. I have only a handful of friends, but they are VERY close. I get along well with everyone, but only a select few know the true me.

I also like to be a loner. There are times I've gotten grumpy and that's when I need isolation time from people, civilization, anad the world. Thats when I go camping.

A personality test reveals I am an introvert. That explains that.

Drugs? Pssh, I live near Oakland. Infamous for drugs/crime/you name it.

NgDawg, I considered the east coast but the population seems so dense over there, it'd be hard to get jobs and the like (don't plan on working at CostCo forever!)

As someone who has been looking for work since graduating in March, 2005, I can definitely say, jobs are scarce, unless you want to drive a limo, delivery truck or have your CDL...the drivers needed in the classified is by far the most listings....jobs suck here.
Financial jobs are big in Charlotte, NC. Tech jobs are pretty abundant in the Kansas City area(it's like the midwest version of Silicon Valley around there) and parts of Alabama (the outskirts of Birmingham). I don't know about Tennessee, jobwise, I just know that it's laid back, polite, cheap and very very pretty and open...you can drive quite a while before coming across someone in your way.

keyshawn · 10-30-2006, 06:39 AM

The Pacific NW, especially Portland, seem very attractive and may be a place to move to in a few years after graduating from college. I find the rainy and temperate climate appealing. The strong labor market for college grads and a pretty cosmopolitan feeling, all without many tourists, attracts me as well.

So, what are the disadvantages of living in Portland ?! The only one for me, really, would be being 2000+ miles from friends and family back home (in cleveland).

(BTW, Cleveland is a pretty underrated place itself. It's lower cost of living, diversity of people, a big city, and nice cultural ammenities. There's four seasons of weather as well. I find that the people who dislike Cleveland the most are the people who live there and don't take advantage of what it has to offer and its potential).

catcha back on the flipside,
will.

waltert · 10-30-2006, 06:14 PM

the northwest is a very scenic place, but I simply DONT do winter. you'd likely find me in the southwest given the choice (Texas, NM, AZ)

StormBerlin · 11-01-2006, 03:50 PM

New York is the first state on my list. The winters would suck but in the end it would all be worth it. My brother lives in Portland so if I ever leave California I might just head out there. Although Salt Lake still has a large chunk of my heart.... hopefully I never have to decide where I'm moving next, lol.

snowy · 11-02-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by keyshawn

So, what are the disadvantages of living in Portland ?! The only one for me, really, would be being 2000+ miles from friends and family back home (in cleveland).

I can't really think of any. Excellent public transportation, generally progressive government, polite people, decent cost of living for a metropolitan area, 1 hour to the beach or 1 hour to the mountains, and the highest concentration of microbreweries in the country...yeah, Portland's awesome.

Oh! Oh! I thought of one: The Portland Public School District is kind of bad. They have had problems managing funding in recent years, though it seems as if that is turning around. Here's hoping.

Jason762 · 11-02-2006, 12:46 PM

Well, I'm seriously getting ready to move up there. Probably gonna ask my boss to fill out a transfer application today.

Been looking at apartments to live in while I'm there.

http://www.pomgrp.com/ Seems like a good place, though I don't know. Rates pretty high on apartmentratings.com

I'm wondering though, since I don't have a car, would there be a benefit to buying one in Bellingham, rather than here?

Ermm, any good threads about moving that I should read? I don’t like running into strange situations ill-informed.

Thanks for all the help!

DaElf · 11-04-2006, 06:09 AM

Get ready for rain buddy. The actual inches that fall on the ground are not that much but for the days that are cold, gray and dark before 4:30pm are more than most other places in the country almost all in fact. When the the rain stops on that first sunny day of spring it feels like you just woke up from a long 6 month nap. Awesome feeling but the nap sucks.

Other than the shitty weather Washington is a really nice place to live. I have lived in south west Washington for 13 years and I hated it at first but now love it. I live right on the Columbia mouth right across the river from Astoria. If you get a chance to vacation next summer and don't have extensive time or money I would suggest Cannon Beach Oregon. It's one of the most beautiful places in the pacNW. In the summer sometimes you would swear you're in Hawaii and not in Oregon. It's nice just to go and spend the night sometimes. That's what a lot of the locals do around here either that or Lincoln City for gambling.

la petite moi · 11-04-2006, 08:49 AM

California or New York!

CA is hella expensive ...and I suppose so is NY!

Plaid13 · 11-09-2006, 08:50 AM

Hum tough choice but i would say hawaii or montana hawaii for all the easy to figure out reasons. its tropical and who wouldnt want to live there. But im sure cost of living would be a hassle. Montana just because if you can get a job in a place like that that pays good. it would be very very relaxing. Wouldnt be too hard to just get away from all the annoyances in life and space out and hang out with some trees. But i wouldnt mind being a hermit if i could get myself a cabin in the woods with broadband.

zed wolf · 11-12-2006, 03:11 AM

I'd have to vote you to come to Bellingham. I lived there most of my life and still work there but now I live in Burlington. Although Burlington does have a store too. Its alot smaller city/town then Bellingham is though. I realy do like both but Bellingham definatly has more...culture then Burlington. Lots of outdoor activities, fishing skiing snowboarding hiking bird watching camping boating on lakes rivers and the ocean surfing...Oh, and one of the best clay oval sprint car tracks on the west coast, Skagit Speedway (shameless plug, I race there).
And did I mention thats just your first day here? when you wake up the next morning there is all the wonderful coffee that Washington is so well known for.
I cant be much help on where to rent or buy a car. If you could get yourself an apartment in the fairhaven area You would be well pleased though.
As for how to get here...plane would be good, but that would likley only get you to seattle. Bellingham dose have an airport but I dont know how cost efective it would be to get a flight to there. If you can get someone to pick you up from the airport though its only a little over an hour to bellingham depending on traffic.
Feel free to look me up when you get out this way and I can help show you around a bit. Also with enough warning time I might be able to help out with the airport pick up if you need it.

Warlock! · 11-13-2006, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Sage

Alaska.

I agree, although CO, or any of the mountainous states would rock. Lotsa snow, with low humidity in the summers. The seafood makes me sway towards Alaska, tho.

snowy · 11-13-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zed wolf

I'd have to vote you to come to Bellingham. I lived there most of my life and still work there but now I live in Burlington. Although Burlington does have a store too. Its alot smaller city/town then Bellingham is though. I realy do like both but Bellingham definatly has more...culture then Burlington. Lots of outdoor activities, fishing skiing snowboarding hiking bird watching camping boating on lakes rivers and the ocean surfing...Oh, and one of the best clay oval sprint car tracks on the west coast, Skagit Speedway (shameless plug, I race there).
And did I mention thats just your first day here? when you wake up the next morning there is all the wonderful coffee that Washington is so well known for.
I cant be much help on where to rent or buy a car. If you could get yourself an apartment in the fairhaven area You would be well pleased though.
As for how to get here...plane would be good, but that would likley only get you to seattle. Bellingham dose have an airport but I dont know how cost efective it would be to get a flight to there. If you can get someone to pick you up from the airport though its only a little over an hour to bellingham depending on traffic.
Feel free to look me up when you get out this way and I can help show you around a bit. Also with enough warning time I might be able to help out with the airport pick up if you need it.

Burlington used to be a town...

Now it's just one big shopping area.

Though the Krispy Kreme is nice.

zed wolf · 11-15-2006, 05:32 AM

Lol, Yeah, burlington is pretty much just a big sprawling shopping center now.
Krispy kreme was cool when it first opened but now I almost never get anything from them.

10-01-2006, 12:30 AM	#44 (permalink)
Temporary_User Psycho	Jason, How would you describe yourself? I grew up in Washington Seattle through the early years then up to Bellingham Bellingham is somewhat small - 100,000 I would describe the people as hippie, outdoorsie, or wanna be gangster. Obviously being 100,000 people there isnt any major sports teams. have to head to Seattle or Vancouver for those (Bellingham is right in the middle @ 1.5 hrs away) I would say Bham has a drug problem, but that is me going to HS there and knowing everyone. I'm sure if you moved there and got in the right crowed you would have no problems with this. personally since I've experienced bham before, if I was to move to Wash and pick a place to live from the above list, I would take a look @ woodinville. or actual Seattle if nightlife and big city is for you. oh btw google seached it: http://www.findyourspot.com/ Last edited by Temporary_User; 10-01-2006 at 12:33 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-01-2006, 12:20 PM	#46 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	Odd.....thought my post was here....anyway... I'm very partial to North Carolina, Tennessee and Missouri. The cost of living in all 3 is very good and the cities are cleaner than any here on the east coast. Tennessee and Missouri are both landlocked, but you have the Smokie Mountains in Tennessee and the Ozarks in part of Mo and the plains of Kansas to the west. What I've seen of South Carolina I liked too. Maybe I was a southern belle in a previous life __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

10-03-2006, 11:13 PM	#47 (permalink)
Jason762 Insane Location: Bay Area, California	Temp, what am I like? Well first off I'm a Gemini so I have two personalities. I like people and activities, but prefer closeness over numbers. I have only a handful of friends, but they are VERY close. I get along well with everyone, but only a select few know the true me. I also like to be a loner. There are times I've gotten grumpy and that's when I need isolation time from people, civilization, anad the world. Thats when I go camping. A personality test reveals I am an introvert. That explains that. Drugs? Pssh, I live near Oakland. Infamous for drugs/crime/you name it. NgDawg, I considered the east coast but the population seems so dense over there, it'd be hard to get jobs and the like (don't plan on working at CostCo forever!) Last edited by Jason762; 10-05-2006 at 02:17 PM..

10-07-2006, 09:42 AM	#49 (permalink)
Grasshopper Green ...is a comical chap Location: Where morons reign supreme	Addressing the train/plane/bus thing... If you can afford to fly, fly. I took the Greyhound to Southern California from Salt Lake about 8 years ago, thinking I'd save some money instead of flying. The trip was about the same length as yours...21 hours I think. Boy, did I regret it...it was an awful experience. I've never ridden a train for more than a few hours, so I don't have much experience with that. Take a plane over a bus if you can...the $125 extra "savings" on the bus is totally not worth it. __________________ "They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings; steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king" Formerly Medusa

10-12-2006, 08:24 AM	#51 (permalink)
Kali Upright	Connecticut, for obvious reasons. [IMG] __________________ "According to the map we've only gone four inches" -Dumb and Dumber

09-20-2006, 08:55 AM	#42 (permalink)
Jason762 Insane Location: Bay Area, California	Medusa, I was told about Utah, and it's Mormons who tend to cast a doubful eye towards you if you're not one of them. I have family in Utah, but... the Mormon thing. Painted, and onesnowyowl, thanks for the info on North Spokane. Interesting stuff, but doesn't sound like my kinda place... On a different matter, I remember visiting a link LONG ago where you completed a rather long quiz and it gave you a list of cities that matched you. All I remember about it was a little dog (Spot? Something like that) and a forrest green background (I think :-/). Anyone know what site I'm talking about?

09-22-2006, 11:07 AM	#43 (permalink)
Jason762 Insane Location: Bay Area, California	Okay I'm looking at tickets to Bellingham, WA. Considering staying for a few days. I'm wondering about the "best" way to get there. Bus, train, or airline. Bus takes 23 hours and 20 minutes and costs $ 274 round trip. Train is 22 hours 33 minutes and $ 168 round trip. Only goes to Seattle though. Airline is a 2 hours and $ 406.50. I've never ridden bus or train so I don't know what that's like. I selected Jan 1st to Jan 10th. Is that a good time to visit? Any good hotels in Bellingham? What are some reccomended places to visit? Thanks!

10-05-2006, 02:17 PM	#48 (permalink)
Jason762 Insane Location: Bay Area, California	Found some interesting information about Bellingham. http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA1.gif http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA2.gif http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA3.gif http://www.findyourspot.com/images/r...linghamWA4.gif

10-11-2006, 10:28 PM	#50 (permalink)
FlatLand Flyer Insane Location: Eastern, WA	Haven't looked at this thread for a while and now some places have been mentioned that I can input on. I grew up in Spokane, but moved away 5 years ago for school and now live in Charlotte, NC. I miss it dearly as it will always be home. It does offer almost everything. You seem outdoorsy and I think Spokane would fit the bill for you. Mountains, desert nearby, huge amount of clean lakes, sunshine, some snow, hot and dry summers and 2 Costcos. Cost of living is pretty good. A previous poster mentioned negative temperatures in the winter. It is true that occassionally (once every handful of years) that might happen, but if it snows it is usually gone the next day except for the hills. Spokane is also a MUCH drier climate than western WA. Don't let people fool you on that. Traffic is a million times better also. North Idaho is an outdoorsman's wetdream. If you want to occasionally find isolation, the drive won't be long to get there. Since you already live on the west coast, find plane tickets for Southwest airlines. They should be cheap.

10-25-2006, 09:10 AM	#52 (permalink)
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10-30-2006, 06:39 AM	#54 (permalink)
keyshawn Psycho	The Pacific NW, especially Portland, seem very attractive and may be a place to move to in a few years after graduating from college. I find the rainy and temperate climate appealing. The strong labor market for college grads and a pretty cosmopolitan feeling, all without many tourists, attracts me as well. So, what are the disadvantages of living in Portland ?! The only one for me, really, would be being 2000+ miles from friends and family back home (in cleveland). (BTW, Cleveland is a pretty underrated place itself. It's lower cost of living, diversity of people, a big city, and nice cultural ammenities. There's four seasons of weather as well. I find that the people who dislike Cleveland the most are the people who live there and don't take advantage of what it has to offer and its potential). catcha back on the flipside, will. __________________ currently reading: currently playing :

10-30-2006, 06:14 PM	#55 (permalink)
waltert Insane	the northwest is a very scenic place, but I simply DONT do winter. you'd likely find me in the southwest given the choice (Texas, NM, AZ)

11-01-2006, 03:50 PM	#56 (permalink)
StormBerlin Happy as a hippo Location: Southern California	New York is the first state on my list. The winters would suck but in the end it would all be worth it. My brother lives in Portland so if I ever leave California I might just head out there. Although Salt Lake still has a large chunk of my heart.... hopefully I never have to decide where I'm moving next, lol. __________________ "if anal sex could get a girl pregnant i'd be tits deep in child support" Arcane

11-02-2006, 12:46 PM	#58 (permalink)
Jason762 Insane Location: Bay Area, California	Well, I'm seriously getting ready to move up there. Probably gonna ask my boss to fill out a transfer application today. Been looking at apartments to live in while I'm there. http://www.pomgrp.com/ Seems like a good place, though I don't know. Rates pretty high on apartmentratings.com I'm wondering though, since I don't have a car, would there be a benefit to buying one in Bellingham, rather than here? Ermm, any good threads about moving that I should read? I don’t like running into strange situations ill-informed. Thanks for all the help! __________________ "To win any battle, you must fight as if you were already dead." – Miyamoto Musashi

11-04-2006, 06:09 AM	#59 (permalink)
DaElf Tilted Location: Washington	Get ready for rain buddy. The actual inches that fall on the ground are not that much but for the days that are cold, gray and dark before 4:30pm are more than most other places in the country almost all in fact. When the the rain stops on that first sunny day of spring it feels like you just woke up from a long 6 month nap. Awesome feeling but the nap sucks. Other than the shitty weather Washington is a really nice place to live. I have lived in south west Washington for 13 years and I hated it at first but now love it. I live right on the Columbia mouth right across the river from Astoria. If you get a chance to vacation next summer and don't have extensive time or money I would suggest Cannon Beach Oregon. It's one of the most beautiful places in the pacNW. In the summer sometimes you would swear you're in Hawaii and not in Oregon. It's nice just to go and spend the night sometimes. That's what a lot of the locals do around here either that or Lincoln City for gambling. __________________ I'm sitting at my desk right now waiting for you to reply to the above message.

11-04-2006, 08:49 AM	#60 (permalink)
la petite moi Filling the Void. Location: California	California or New York! CA is hella expensive ...and I suppose so is NY!

11-09-2006, 08:50 AM	#61 (permalink)
Plaid13 I want a Plaid crayon	Hum tough choice but i would say hawaii or montana hawaii for all the easy to figure out reasons. its tropical and who wouldnt want to live there. But im sure cost of living would be a hassle. Montana just because if you can get a job in a place like that that pays good. it would be very very relaxing. Wouldnt be too hard to just get away from all the annoyances in life and space out and hang out with some trees. But i wouldnt mind being a hermit if i could get myself a cabin in the woods with broadband.

11-12-2006, 03:11 AM	#62 (permalink)
zed wolf Crazy Location: The Darkest Parts Of Places Unknown	I'd have to vote you to come to Bellingham. I lived there most of my life and still work there but now I live in Burlington. Although Burlington does have a store too. Its alot smaller city/town then Bellingham is though. I realy do like both but Bellingham definatly has more...culture then Burlington. Lots of outdoor activities, fishing skiing snowboarding hiking bird watching camping boating on lakes rivers and the ocean surfing...Oh, and one of the best clay oval sprint car tracks on the west coast, Skagit Speedway (shameless plug, I race there). And did I mention thats just your first day here? when you wake up the next morning there is all the wonderful coffee that Washington is so well known for. I cant be much help on where to rent or buy a car. If you could get yourself an apartment in the fairhaven area You would be well pleased though. As for how to get here...plane would be good, but that would likley only get you to seattle. Bellingham dose have an airport but I dont know how cost efective it would be to get a flight to there. If you can get someone to pick you up from the airport though its only a little over an hour to bellingham depending on traffic. Feel free to look me up when you get out this way and I can help show you around a bit. Also with enough warning time I might be able to help out with the airport pick up if you need it. Last edited by zed wolf; 11-12-2006 at 03:25 AM..

11-15-2006, 05:32 AM	#65 (permalink)
zed wolf Crazy Location: The Darkest Parts Of Places Unknown	Lol, Yeah, burlington is pretty much just a big sprawling shopping center now. Krispy kreme was cool when it first opened but now I almost never get anything from them.