dtheriault

first of all i hate most cheating. what i really hate are people who cheat at school when the grades are weighted, or people who cheat to get an A or to maintain their high standing in the class.

i myself have cheated a few times, but it was usually because i was in danger of failing and it was never in a class with weighted grades.

that being said, there are some more creative ways that i have seen during my long tenure at school.

1. if you have to turn in a five page paper... just write 4 pages, but staple five together. then rip off the 5th page. turn in the 4 pages and take the fifth paper with it's matching rip mark home and print up the rest of your paper. you can either hand it in or wait for the teacher to ask you for it.

2. email the teacher a file that you know will turn up goobleygook. works esp. well with technophobe teachers that are required to accept emailed attachments, or teachers with macs that expect having difficulty opening your pc file.

3. put a cheat sheet in the sweater hood of the guy in front of you., put a sheet inside a jacket and when you lean over the jacket will puff out and you can see it. write notes on the edges of your fingers so when you hold your fingers together, but show your palms nothing shows. put a cheat sheet inside a loafer shoe so when you cross your legs and flex your foot you can see the sheet.

so any thoughts about cheating or alternative methods?

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Sleepyjack

i only cheat at something if it isn't too serious and is done in more of a jocular manner for fun, rather than falsly bettering my self at something. i couldn't live with that.

for instance, somtimes when i play monoplay, i grab some money from the bank, but its all just in good fun. I do it in a joking fashion as well, if you can imagine that....

as for cheating at school, i don't know of any methods...

glophead

I don't really cheat on tests or other important things. Mostly I just copy my friends homework when they do it, and they copy mine when I do it, its a big conspiracy. I did cheat once on the SOL because I didn't finish a section in time, so I wrote on desk/memorized the question and answer choices and just filled in the bubble later.

Andric

School is to prepare you for the real world. If you cheat, you might get good grades, but you learn nothing (except how to cheat), and you leave unprepared. So, in the long run, you only cheat yourself. That's my opinion.

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Slims

Aside from it being dishonorable, your cheating will always hurt others....by artificially inflating your grades you diminish the honest accomplishments of your classmates. Even if the class is stupid.

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glophead

What if what you're cheating on is only busy work and you only get a grade on whether you did it or not?

TM875

My 10th grade Social Studies teacher said it best:

The only thing that separates the Honors kids from the Parallel is that they cheat better.

Needless to say, we (the Honors people) cheated on every single test that we had in that class. He would actually leave the answer key out on his desk!

I have no problem cheating on tests and quizzes. In fact, the ability to cheat and get away with it is a great skill. Regardless, I've always been at the top of my class. Anything that I've cheated on is inconsequential - I would ace the class regardless.

For those that say cheating does nothing to prepare you for real life....have you ever worked in business? Welcome to the REAL real world.

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papermachesatan

i have in the past but I'd like to try to avoid doing it in the future.

Andric

For the past 20 years of my life, yes. I have other comments about your post, but they would add nothing constructive to this thread. I will simply say that we have differing opinions.

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The_Dude

i only cheat if i think the teacher isnt doing a good enuff job and the tests dont reflect the preperation that he/she gave us.

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MacGnG

i dont cheat on things like tests and definitally not exams.

i do put formulas and programs on my graphing calculator. i do not consider that cheating, because i have to know what to do to use the programs (all most all of the programs i use, i make).

cheerios

aah, I remember this part of highschool. RAMPANT cheating, and academic dishonesty. Don't see near as much in college, and it's looked down upon MUCH more. fellow students will turn you in, even. But, yes, in highschool, I'd been known to glance at someone else's cheat sheet if they hid it somewhere where i could see it too. :/ Not particularly PROUD of it, but... at the time, w/ the pressure of needing to be bilingual to graduate highschool and having a spanish teacher w/ a southern accent... well, we all made due however we could. would never DREAM of cheating on something in college. for one, we PAY to be there. for two, it's too important to understand this shit to screw yourself over like that, and for three, if you get caught, you don't just get an F on the test. you can get all sorts of major-nasty penalties, and i don't want any part of it.

Pennington

I only believe in cheating in required classes. If you chose to take a class, you chose it in the hopes you might learn something. Cheating won't help you there. As for required classes, cheat away, I did. (I see no point in failing sex ed if you can't remember where the fallopian tubes are)

Nad Adam

One thing that I can't stand is that most teachers are so easily maipulated, in the schools that I have attended maybe as many as 80% of the teachers will grade you 50% on how well you have done and 50% how much you kissed ass. And I'm not talking about just being polite and quiet.

I would ten times rather cheat than kiss a teachers ass. But that's all in the past so I don't care anymore.

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Atomic Pinkie

Hey its not cheating, the graphic calculator is a piece of school material, if you actually code the thing (I knew a person who just had entered in the text, didn't even write the proggie for it) then you are learning it at the same time...uh yeah

Chemistry baby!

I had an entire hub programmed into my calculator

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slant eyes

in high school, we had ways of making off with the answer key or an actual test the day prior to the test. we would gather and work on the test, type up the answers in 4 pt font and bring that to class.

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pixelbend

I say no, but I did get a term paper I forgot to write on line and turned it in with only minor changes. Good thing I never got caught!

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CSflim

Have never cheated. Never wiill (I hope). Hate people who cheat, and have been strongly tempted to turn people in, in the past. Never did though, because I knew that they were only fooling themselves, as when it came to the REAL exam they wouldn't have a clue.
The way the leaving cert is done over here makes it near impossible to cheat. and if you get caught, you are severely fucked for life. You can only cheat on unofficial exams, which mean precisely nothing anyway.

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glophead

The way my 11th grade history teacher put it:

"If you cheat, don't get caught. If you get caught, blame someone else."

he was awesome

giblfiz

I never understood how people managed to cheat on tests. What the hell is wrong with your teachers? They write out an answer key before the test? what?

As far as crib sheets go, I never had any trouble memorizing a pile of crap for 3 hour retention, so I guess I have just never been tempted.

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dtheriault

thanks everyone, cool replies.

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Scrub0

Just sit diagonally behind a smart guy, then ask them to put the test on your side. Then put your test on their side, copy away, and no one will be the wiser. Works especially well with multiplechoice forms

FastShark85

True story:

A buddy of mine once believed that a high school teacher of ours didn't take the time to read the essay portion of an exam, so he sprinkled one of the essays with random profanity.

Sure enough, he got an "A" and showed me the essay portion to prove it.

Not cheating, but still funny.

oh yeah

For some of the people at my school cheating is a way of life. They miss the test day and have a friend take an extra test paper and give them that to study. It made me mad because I worked for my grades and they did not. They hardly showed up for class.

Buk

ROFL that is awesome, I swear most of my college professors who didnt have assistans just scanned essays for key words. I once asked a professor what he thought of an essay paper and he said, "well, it looked like everything you need to have in there was there and it was the right length so I gave you an A."

gar1976

Cheated in my HS french class. That's about it.

Cheating will only get you so far, then real life catches up.

MSD

I'm on probation right now because I didn't cheat when I could have. It's not geting me anywhere in life if I do it, so I'm going back and paying attention in class.

wlcm

I myself am a student and believe there is no excuse to cheating. It doesn't matter if the class is boring or you happen to think your teacher is inept, cheating is still wrong. Yes yes, i too have done the sharing and sectioning off of long ridiculous busy work assignments, but i admit that is still wrong. I make no excuses for that, though you could imagine why i would do it at the time. In the end, it was still wrong.

Cheating only serves to put the people who don't cheat into a disadvantaged position. There should be no reason why those honest people should work harder to play catch up with the cheaters.

If you were confidant enough about your own skills, you should be able to go through school without cheating for the most part. If you think you need to rely on cheating to get by in school, then you need admit to yourself that you aren't very bright an that you need to get some serious legitimate academic help.

In my opinion, the worst cheaters are the ones that think that they need to do it so that they can inflate themselves to straight A's or close so that they can get into the college that they want. Its sad that those people can't admit to themselves that if they couldn't do it without cheating, then they weren't meant to go to or just wasn't good enough for that college anyways.

In my high school, cheaters were as abundant as lockers. Almost all the near straight A's honor students were cheaters. It was such a disgusting practice in that they did whatever it took to make them look the best on paper to college admissions officers.

Whats incredibly amusing is that a lot of the people who fell into that category all ended up going to the same fallback state college anyways--not that thats bad, but its definatly not what they had hoped for in those 4 years of perfecting their cheating and application methods.

I believe that most people cheat because they can't admit that they aren't nearly as academicly talented as they think they are or "deserve" to be--and that is the saddest part of all.

wally

My experiences in college with cheaters and cheating have been that it is pretty common among everyone. I think most people cheat even a "little bit", even if it is something as simple as writing an equation lightly on your desk that you were supposed to memorize.

TawG

i have never cheated, the only kind of cheating ive seen been done is to see if the teacher favorises anyone, and some do. One time 3 guys i knew handed in the exact same papers on a test, they got 3+ 4- and 5+. I never take classes with biased teachers, and if i have to take em, i allways give them shit.

hobo

I don't like cheaters, it pains me to see someone else get a good mark for not working, when I had to do some studying and paying attention. I even refused to cheat for my friend once. It was a stupid thing. My class was before his in HS physics. We had a multiple choice test and at the end of the class, the teacher would have it marked with an answer key and we got to watch. My friend wanted me to memorize the last 10 answers or something but I told him no so he got another guy to do it for him. He still got a lame mark on the written part but the multiple choice cheat boosted his mark way too much.

If you need to cheat to succeed, you'll need to keep cheating to stay successful. Its a dependancy I'd rather not have because getting caught means serious penalties.

Jesus Malverde

I always cheated in school, but not because I was dumb or didn't know the material, but because I would waste my fucking time talking to my friends, so when the assignment was due I would have to get the answers really fast to avoid failure. It worked out pretty well, before test days I would just study and end up getting an A. Everyone in my classed cheated, everyone would help each other out. I don't think it is wrong. The dumb ones will eventually flunk out of college anyway.

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Munku

Write in the formulas etc into a ti graphing calculator.

waxeater

Your only cheating yourself.
School is important. It dosn't seen that way when your there, but looking back, I'm glad of what I achieved there on my own merits.
I didn't do exceptionally well, just average, but am happy to have learnt what I did. As it all comes in handy later in life!!

bobbles

Never did cheat at school, although I know plenty of people did (really frustrating when they end out on top too...)

Loup

I only cheated in High School for tests ... ended up only cheating myself for when the exams came around
College and University I have / I am doing it on my own (wish me luck )

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macmanmike6100

cheating is fucked up. you fuck those around you, you fuck yourself, and you get grades that you certainly don't deserve. the year I left for college, i heard of a group of kids who cheated on the SAT...and weren't punished because the school didn't want a black-eye.

Stare At The Sun

*shrug* i cheat when/if i can. gotta do what you gotta do.

But its not like im hurting anyone other than myself in the long run. And i know that, but sometimes, you just forget to study, or need to copy a homework assignment.

Sue me..

hobo

It does hurt others in the long run. The class average is inflated and someone else looks bad, which might cost them an opportunity.

bussman

In highschool I didn't care about cheaters much. Now that I'm in college though it really pisses me off when I know people are cheating.