Why would that change now, after all those 'suprerior' competitors came and went without any fuss? And remember, this isn't the sequel to the GBA. That's still in the works. The new system that will coincide with the N5 will very probably blow the PSP out of the water.

as far as the third party developers....you are so wrong its not even funny. the GBA has so many games from so many developers.....actually EVERY developer makes games for the GBA. and all those who supported the GBA have jumped on the DS bandwagon. you simply cannot say that nintendo has no support. the GC has no support, but the GBA and DS are on another leve..

Activision: Spiderman 2
Atari: Project TBA
Bandai: One Piece, other games TBA
Banpresto: Dragon Ball Z
Capcom: Megaman Battle Network, Viewtiful Joe DS, Gyakuten Saiban
Electronic Arts: Need for Speed
From Software Project TBA
Hudson: Bomberman, other projects TBA
Koei: Dynasty Warriors
Konami: Frogger 2005, Yu-Gi-Oh: Nightmare Troubadour
Majesco: Project TBA
Namco: Mr. Driller, TBA RPG
Sega: Project Rub
Square Enix: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Egg Monster Hero, Dragon Quest Monsters
Tecmo: Monster Rancher
THQ: Spongebob Squarepants
Ubisoft: Rayman
Vivendi: Project TBA

just look at the games coming out for the DS, and these are just the big names. Viewtful Joe, FF, DRAGON QUEST, Dynasty Warriors.

Indeed. Plus it plays all existing GBA games, so number of titles sure as hell ain't an issue.

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some guy took a video camera around and played some of the DS games. i must say it looks pretty damn impressive.

i have also just been informed that the PSP will play movies........but not dvds. yeah, thats right. any movies that you want to watch have to be first put on one of those UMD discs. and as far as that goes i dont think we'll see anybody start selling movies like that.

and then i also found this article....


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Id be sold if I could watch movies on the PSP, or atleast have an add on for it.

Well, you can, but you need to buy the minidiscs for the movies. There's a movie watching thang for the GBA, so it's not a new innovation from Sony.

Damn Sorry man, I just saw the rerun of the E3 Live on TechTv today again. I heard it wrong, the guy say ps2 will cost 149, not psp. :(

Portable Porn, I'm digging it.

but it is actually good quaility from sony

problems with the DS. THe guy in the video says "great 3-d engine, great 3d graphics", but lets face it, psp looks a thousand times better....anyways, also, who wants to play metroid with a stick? i mean, you point at the bad guy, and he dies, there is no aiming, just shove the stick in his face....its cool they have come up with new ideas, and i think the touch screen will be really cool and fun, but i dont want to play metroid prime with a stick, anyways, how do you jump if your left hand moves, and your right is holding the pointer? Psp has an analog stick, that sells me right there.

Square has already annouced that FF7:Advent Children, the movie, will be released on UMD format, and DVD. Lets hope that we will beable to burn or download information onto a blank UMD disc, or at least illegally do it :)

Well there you go, color me stupid. Ya i was mostly talking about the GC for some dumb reason. dont get me wrong i love my GBA and I still like Nintendo, and you telling me that Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest will be on the DS makes me oh so very very happy. Now i will own a PSP and a DS. weeee

show me an annoucement that ff and dq will be on DS. im not saying its true, but i havent read that yet.

http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strategy...cid_e3_103.asx


Sign up, its free. Check out these PSP hands on videos. Very very awesome.

I'm pretty sure that they've managed to get a decent control scheme out. Just because it looks like MP doesn't mean it has to control the exact same way, does it?

I'm sold on the DS. There's a few things I'm worried about on the PSP: size, the screen being scratchtastic, and battery life. Not to mention proprietary movie discs and such. The DS already has a library of GBA games, most importantly MY library of GBA games, and if it has backwards compatibility, also Flash GBA carts for all your retro NES gaming needs, too. Now if those emulator kids figure out a way to use the WiFi with some old NES games, that's pure hotness.

Why would you want to watch a movie on like a 4 inch screen?

Doesn't seem that enjoyable to me.

I HOPE THIS IS SUFFICE

i think IGN is as reliable as anyone else when it came to E3 coverage, so i doubt that they are pulling this out of their ass.

show me a gameplay vid of the PSP, then we'll talk....cuzz pretty much every pic and vid that i've seen is just CG and FMV's running on the PSP, nothing is in-game play footage.

but i do agree with you on the stick thing. i really hope that when this game comes out the stick will be optional.

This is the kind of shot that scares the crap out of me with the PSP:

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6563/lolpsp.jpg

The main reason I love my GBA SP is the size. Grant it, the DS will be larger, but for integrated Wifi and the like, I know the size has to increase....But, this doesn't easily slip into my work bag.

Actually i already linked to a site with live footage. Why dont you read the thread first.


http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strateg...acid_e3_103.asx

Well I have to say that both handhelds should be awesome... but I will have to agree that if the PSP's only advantage is its extra power, it is not going to last. The Gameboy has a ton of support for it... and thats not to say that the PSP is not going to be great but I think that relying on graphics alone will become its doom.

That said I will most likely buy both as soon as a good game comes out for it.

I have no plans on getting either one of them; I'm sure they'll both kick ass, but I'm not really a hand-held portable gamer. The only thing I really wanted to say was this: N64 was awesome, in my humble opinion, so the DS sounds good to me, plus it strikes me as more innovative.

link's dead my friend

but i did some searching of my own and found some. their is no doubt that the PSP is impressive. but i do have a concern. trying to show that much detail on a small screen will do wonders for the eyes. imagine playing Halo or Metroid Prime or GTA3 on a 9 inch screen. that would suck ass.....now half the size again. i know that my eyes would be killing me in not too long at all.

what kind of movies is this thing (psp) going to play?

is it a proprietary format where movie studios are going to have to make a psp version of their film? is it going to have a pc interface to write files to it? divx? mpeg2?

if sony thinks that people are going to buy movies that will only play on their psp... i think they're sorely mistaken. hopefully there is some way to watch the movies you already have by re-encoding them.

Yeah, would you rather pay to buy a movie to watch on a TV or a 4 inch screen?

To me, people who get handhelds just want games.

Here's something I found with a quick google search:

Jeez, look at the screen on that PSP compared to gamegear. Makes me want a PSP even more.

Fanboy comments aside, I think the PSP is definitely a superior console. No need to call me biased, look at the screenshots. Look at the specs. Look at the screen size. Look at the features. The only things that the DS excel in are the touchscreen, and the fact that games will run faster on cartriges than on the CD media that PSP uses. Nintendo also has its popular franchises to milk while the Sony/PSP doesn't really have any big name franchises to milk. I guess we'll see how it turns out after they're both out... I think nintendo will be safe as long as they keep releasing pokemons and remakes of old games that have already been made.

Stop fucking flaming each other you mother fucking fanboys. Accept each as it is and shut up

Although its true that NDS is not an N64, it is considerably cheaper than PSP, plus it can be used as a palm type computer. Also, PSP will be MSRP $699 USD, and NDS MSRP $299. So now that you know the prices, you can decide again. :lol:

Looks like it will snap quite nicely if you hit it in the right place. :)

The cost of the psp could be its downfall. Parents arent going to spend 250-600 dollars on a system there kid could easly lose or break

Funny, the screen is exactly why I have no interest. The thing is enormous. The thing is anything but "portable".

SONY just fucked up royally.....i guess you could say the pwned themselves.


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i now ask the question....what's the point?

i'm just going to take a quote that i found from someone concerning this and just give him the credit.

I wonder how one will be able to mod these systems. Those zany modders are always coming up with some insane methods ;)

GBA is easy because you just make a 512 meg flash cart and store the ROMs on it. GameCube has the Phantasy Star exploit. These two systems will be interesting.. anyone know if the DS is a cart or a CD-based system?

I'm not sure, but I heard its going to be cd based with a 1.8 gig minidisc.

its a flash card type thing....like the ones for digital cameras. the PSP uses Ultra Mini Discs

I think they're both going to pnz and will probably buy both of them. I've always loved me some handheld gaming and I play my GBA almost everyday.

DS and PSP how I love thee let me count the ways.

DS:
1.Touchscreen: Best idea ever.
2. Wireless onlineplay: I know PSP has this too but this is a big plus considering its coming from Nintendo. Does it mean they will be bringing some Gamecube games online too? I hope so.

PSP:
1.Graphics: All I have to say is wow.
2. UMD: The DS cards are supposed to have a large capacity but they probably won't be as large as this.

Conclusion:
I want them both.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

PS2 games on a little handheld, or on my HDTV?

my buddy has a Sony handheld dvd player.. it barely gets through 2 average-length movies on full battery. And it doesnt have a cpu, graphic processor, or wireless connectivity ;)

Until I see some battery-life stats, and how many original titles it will have, DS plz