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Destrox 05-22-2004 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
Is the trial version of that good enough or should I buy it?
Well it is 30$, so unless you have money to burn, make sure its what you want. I'm sure theres other FPS only programs out there, that dont cost money.

I am just simply a movie freak, and love the feature of taking any in-game movie w/excellent quality. :)

saut 05-23-2004 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Eviltree
I got this game 2 days ago. I just got to Carralies Corsades in the town. The game seems really cool, but I don't have a clue whats going on. How exactly do you level up? I still don't understand, there is a bar above my character portrait in the menu, and there is a level number, neither of which I know how to up. Does the character speed increase as you level up, or is there a run toggle, because I'm walking everwhere, and it takes forever. Other than that, it looks like a pretty cool game, if a bit complicated. Anyone have any tips for me? Im still level 1, and have restarted 3 times.
Yes, eventually you get much faster and much more powerful. By level 40 (which won't take as long as you think it would), you'll practically be a god.

Pressing caps lock or holding shift makes you run, but your fatigue bar goes down when you do this. You can keep running with an empty fatigue bar (at first I thought you couldn't and never ran for more than 30 seconds or so at a time, slowed me down a lot). The fatigue bar determines your effectiveness in combat, basically.

To level up, you have to increase 10 of your skills and then rest. When you've increased 10 skills, you'll get a message saying "You need to rest and meditate on what you've learned." To increase a skill, you simply have to use it -- ie: jumping a lot increases acrobatics, using a longsword will increase your longsword ability, using magic will increase certain magic skills, etc.

As far as walking everywhere, there is a faster way, besides running, althought it costs a little gold. At every major town, there is usually an "instant" way of travel to another town -- silt strider ports (the really big bugs), teleportation in towns with a mage guild, and boats in coastal towns. Knowing how to use these will make travelling from place to place a LOT faster and more efficient (no getting lost from using the sign posts, which are not very good indicators of where things really are).

For more information that will help you out, go to this link: http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/gam...all/morrowind/

They have a guide on just about everything the starting morrowind player could ask for.

MrFlux 05-23-2004 03:33 PM

Another note, to level up, the skills that you increase must be Major or Minor skills... Misc. skills give a maximum of 0.5 towards your level (I believe) whereas leveling up a mjaor or minor skill will increase it by 1 and you can keep leveling up that skill to get another one.

Read some guides on leveling up though, so you know how the multipliers work.

Eviltree 05-23-2004 08:30 PM

Thanks, walking/jumping everywhere was getting a bit annoying. I've got to level 4, got a bunch of armour and stuff. I also have a quick question, sorry for not looking on gamespot, but that thing is just too big to look at right now. How do you get additional spells(not from items), or can you? I started the game with firebite, summon ghost, conjure dagger, and hearthheal, do you have to read books or is it every so many levels?

Destrox 05-23-2004 10:24 PM

Buy them from any mage guilde, or trainer that happens to sell stuff.

Piston Honda 05-24-2004 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by MrFlux
Another note, to level up, the skills that you increase must be Major or Minor skills... Misc. skills give a maximum of 0.5 towards your level (I believe) whereas leveling up a mjaor or minor skill will increase it by 1 and you can keep leveling up that skill to get another one.

Read some guides on leveling up though, so you know how the multipliers work.


This is only true on X-Box I believe. All skills count equally on the PC version.

kutulu 05-24-2004 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by Piston Honda
This is only true on X-Box I believe. All skills count equally on the PC version.
Misc skills count evenly towards the multipliers in the PC version, but do not count towards leveling.

Early in the game, I'd try to run a lot. You encounter nice low level creatures to get your fighting skills up and start raising your athletics. It also helps to start getting to know the terrain.

kutulu 05-24-2004 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by saut
Right now I'm favoring an ebony scimitar that I enchanted with lots of absorb health, using Almalexia's sould (gives a 1500 charge).
I need to find one of those ebony scimitars. Its an enchanters dream. I think it has the highest enchant capacity of all weapons in the game.

saut 05-24-2004 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
I need to find one of those ebony scimitars. Its an enchanters dream. I think it has the highest enchant capacity of all weapons in the game.
Indeed it does! You can find some in Mournhold (if you have Tribunal) on the high ordinators.

pixelbend 05-25-2004 05:44 AM

I just got orders from the head of the fighters guild to kill the heads of the theives guild. But at the same time, I got told by the fighter's guild head at Ald-Rhun that I should kill two of the other heads and Hard heart and he would support me as guild master.

As I am also in the thieve's guild, I think I'll just kill Hard Heart.

kutulu 05-25-2004 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by saut
Indeed it does! You can find some in Mournhold (if you have Tribunal) on the high ordinators.
I went there last night and killed a high ordinator (tough SOB) but the weapon was already enchanted. I was so pissed off. The must have high personality and speechcraft because it took a long time to taunt him into attacking me. It was quite a long battle. I've been able to whip the asses of multiple regular ordinators at the same time but this one guy was giving me a run for my money. I'll have to go back and try it again.

saut 05-25-2004 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
I went there last night and killed a high ordinator (tough SOB) but the weapon was already enchanted. I was so pissed off. The must have high personality and speechcraft because it took a long time to taunt him into attacking me. It was quite a long battle. I've been able to whip the asses of multiple regular ordinators at the same time but this one guy was giving me a run for my money. I'll have to go back and try it again.
Are you sure it wasn't one of the Her Hands guards that you killed? Was the armor enchanted too? Usually High Ordinators carry unenchanted scimitars.

kutulu 05-25-2004 10:50 AM

He looked like an Ordinator, had the name High Ordinator, but the stuff he had was as you described. The scimitar was pretty badass; it had a damage strength 5pts plus a lot of other enchantments. The armor was nice too but it's heavy as fuck. The full set probably weighs over 300.

saut 05-25-2004 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
He looked like an Ordinator, had the name High Ordinator, but the stuff he had was as you described. The scimitar was pretty badass; it had a damage strength 5pts plus a lot of other enchantments. The armor was nice too but it's heavy as fuck. The full set probably weighs over 300.
Strange... try killing another one! Yeah the HO armor is pretty damn heavy, but not quite as heavy as Daedric. If you're going to wear armor, heavy is the only kind that's really worth it.

TheClarkster 05-25-2004 10:10 PM

Due to the open-endedness of this game, I'm probably going to have to start over... I became addicted to pickpocketing, which led to people attacking me, which led to me killing them. That happened to the majority of the people in Balmora.

Any suggestions as to fun classes/skills to take up in the beginning? Enchanting or Alchemy sounded nifty. I was an assassin this last game.

saut 05-26-2004 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by TheClarkster
Due to the open-endedness of this game, I'm probably going to have to start over... I became addicted to pickpocketing, which led to people attacking me, which led to me killing them. That happened to the majority of the people in Balmora.

Any suggestions as to fun classes/skills to take up in the beginning? Enchanting or Alchemy sounded nifty. I was an assassin this last game.

Enchanting is a VERY hard skill to level up, and you probably won't use it until your character is quite strong. I wouldn't suggest picking this as a major skill. Alchemy, on the other hand, I have heard is a great source of income (as well as free potions). I've only played warrior type classes before who dabble in magic a little, never really attempted a pure mage or alchemist before. If you like pick-pocketing people, I would suggest joining the theives guild (if you haven't already) -- they can take care of the bounty on your head, which is the cause of people attacking you on sight.

kutulu 05-26-2004 09:44 AM

I was dumb enough to make enchanting a major skill. I should have chosen alchemy instead. The thing about alchemy is that you need to have a minimum about of skill to be sucessfull, say about 30. Descent equipment can be found for free too. It can be a huge source of income. Buy 100 ash yam and 100 bloat. Make five fort strength and drink them. Repeat till you've used all of it. Each time your int raises, the potion effects get better and the duration gets longer. By the time you go through all those ingredients you can make poitions at a 100% success rate that will be worth 5-30k each. I made some restore magika and fort int that that restores or fortifies 4500 pts for 7500 seconds. Those are worth over 20k. If I had made that a fort strenght potion, you could probably kill anyone with 1 punch.

My next character will have:
Major
Destruction (willpower)
Alchemy (intelligence)
Long Blade (strength)
Spear (endurance)
Marksman (agility)

Minor
Athletics (speed)
Acrobatics (strength)
Alteration (willpower)
Sneak (agility)
Security (intelligence)

Notice none of the skills will raise personality. I think personality is useless. I have low personality (40 at level 24) and I can always bribe and taut people, it just costs more and you have nothing else to do with your money. The skills are all things that you will use on a regular basis so it will.

I chose spear because it's governed by endurance. You want to get the max hp so you need to max endurance as quick as possible. If you fight with spears a lot, you can raise it naturally and then buy training in heavy and med armor when its time to level so that you can get a +5 multiplier without adding up points that go towards the next level. Armor skills take too long to raise naturally so they aren't great things to put in as major/minor skills. It's best to raise those by training.

If you want to be able to use magic, you should take the Atronach sign. It fortifies magika by 2*int. In return you can't regain magicka by resting, but you also get absorb 50%. To regain magicka you can summon ancestor ghosts and let them pound away or use potions. It makes it diffcult at first but the long term benefits outweigh the negative.

TheClarkster 05-27-2004 01:05 PM

My dark elf who can no longer quest as having killed way too many people has become a wandering thief. And so, I had to share the joy in his bounty:

<img src=http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v36/BobaClark/ScreenShot_0.jpg>

Not bad for being level 5 I imagine.

pixelbend 05-27-2004 01:29 PM

I'm at level 31 now (orc barbarian). I took over Hlaalu Manor in Balmora and used the four dining tables as armor and weapons storage and the three shelves on the other side of the room to store books and potions and misc. good stuff (bug lamps, ash statues, etc.) the tables are overflowing because I never take the time to sell my high priced stuff to the Creeper or Mudcrab. (they are way out of the price range of anyone else) Until I want to make a super-funky encanted item that is.

I was at full (100) strength, but it just didn't seem to be enough, so I enchanted a deadric gauntlet with constant fortify strength 10 - 20 points. I am thinking of doing the same to the other, or enchant it with constant feather.

No one can do much more than scratch me now.

kutulu 05-27-2004 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by TheClarkster
My dark elf who can no longer quest as having killed way too many people has become a wandering thief.
Once I finish all the quests, I plan on killing every NPC in the game execpt for the Creeper.

saut 05-27-2004 02:20 PM

I'm playing the Sixth House Mod right now (it lets you join the sixth house, as the name would imply) with my custom Balrog character. I'm trying to find some more evil things to do (aside from the sixth house quests and killing random people), but there just isn't very much to do around Morrowind that will satisfy my needs! Any suggestions on evil activities to try?

bundy 05-27-2004 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
Once I finish all the quests, I plan on killing every NPC in the game execpt for the Creeper.
thats my plan as well.
there are so many annoying characters out there that i just want to CUT UP!!!

Destrox 05-27-2004 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by saut
I'm playing the Sixth House Mod right now (it lets you join the sixth house, as the name would imply) with my custom Balrog character. I'm trying to find some more evil things to do (aside from the sixth house quests and killing random people), but there just isn't very much to do around Morrowind that will satisfy my needs! Any suggestions on evil activities to try?
If you have tribunal, once its beat leave one very desolate and bloody island.

MrFlux 05-27-2004 03:50 PM

For you people wondering to do with your copious amounts of gold.... train! Your major / minor skills really have no impact on the upper end of the game because all your skills are as high as you want them to be (if you know where the master trainers are).

My level 42 Templar (enabled all the classes that were in the game but not playable) has:
Str: 100
Int: 100
Wis: 100
Agil: 96
Speed: 90
End: 100
Personality: 93
Luck: 47

Note that those are only base stats, I'm wearing a lot of the legendary items.

If you have lots of the legendary artifacts and have no use for them, and have tribunal, sell them to the museum! Sure, you only get gold, but it's cool to go to the museum and see all the unused items you've collected.

Btw if you're using Heavy Armour and want more strength, find the Fists of Randagulf Gauntlets (you'll probably find them while doing the main quest if you keep an eye out), one gives +20 str and the other gives +20 agility.

Destrox 05-27-2004 03:56 PM

I figure this is as good of a place as any to post some screenshots of my last adventure into Morrowind. (These are after beating Main Q, Tribunal, and Bloodmoon. All three worth the money imho)

http://www.disp0sable.org/gallery/th...s.php?album=26

I love taking screenshots! :)

kutulu 05-27-2004 04:04 PM

You've got a nice collection

MrFlux 05-27-2004 04:05 PM

Lykaios, Level 42 Templar
Hortator of the Great Houses
Nerevarine of the Ashlanders

*Knight of the Imperial Dragon*
*Partriarch of the Tribunal Temple*
*Primate of the Imperial Cult*
*Archmaster of House Redoran*
*Master of the Fighter's Guild*
*Arch-Mage of the Mage's Guild*

Hearthfriend to the Ashlanders
Operative of the Blades

http://mrflux.orcon.net.nz/lykaios.jpg

saut 05-27-2004 07:37 PM

You're pretty decked out there, Flux. I'll have to take some screenshots of my collection as well...

GuttersnipeXL 05-27-2004 07:48 PM

Wow, I havn't played Morrowind in a few monthes now. I get nothing done when I'm into that game. I know I have at very least over 1000 hours into that game....so much fun.

Gortroff the Guttersnipe will rise once again!!!

TheClarkster 05-29-2004 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by MrFlux
http://mrflux.orcon.net.nz/lykaios.jpg
That is a crapload of little icons in the lower right.
I've only got one or two! :lol:

TheClarkster 05-29-2004 02:39 PM

I have a question about skill increasing books:
Since there are several copies of each of these books, can you read every copy to gain several levels in the named skill?

Amethyst 05-29-2004 02:57 PM

I hate this game sooooooooo much. My husband and brother in law and his friend come over and play it all at the same time and hog all the t.v's in the house. It sucks!

MrFlux 05-29-2004 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by TheClarkster
I have a question about skill increasing books:
Since there are several copies of each of these books, can you read every copy to gain several levels in the named skill?

Nope, only one skill increase per book.
So you can't find 2 copies of 36 Lessons of Vivec 12 and get the skill increase from each, only the first one.

TheClarkster 06-01-2004 04:14 PM

I don't know if I'm being completely stupid about this, but how do you go about using ingredients to make potions with Alchemy?
I have all (4?) of the Alchemist's tools, all of the Master's level. Do I put the stuff in one of them?

I'm so confused!!

Scipio 06-01-2004 10:14 PM

@TheClarkster-

If I recall, you just activate the mortar and pestle. The other tools function within that screen.

TheClarkster 06-01-2004 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Scipio
@TheClarkster-

If I recall, you just activate the mortar and pestle. The other tools function within that screen.

So everything is in your inventory?

Destrox 06-02-2004 03:11 AM

Yeah, drag the one item onto your body and then it shows the other tools and ingrediants you want to mix.

http://www.uesp.net/morrow/hints/mwalchemy.shtml

That is a VERY good site for tips on how to make things.

kutulu 06-02-2004 09:06 AM

Be prepared to fail a lot, especially when your skill in alchemy is less than 50. I think it's best to start out any alchemy session with mixing a lot of fortify intelligence potions, it greatly increases your sucess rate and potion quality.

Scipio 06-02-2004 09:36 AM

Yeah, I was never an expert on alchemy. Just boost your INT, find a bunch of ingredients, and make potions for practice. I like to take alchemy as a primary skill if I'm going to use it so that I don't have to train it from the ground up. Having the high quality equipment helps as well, and really isn't all that difficult to steal.

And the master alchemy trainer:

Spoiler: Alchemy Master Trainer: Valenvaryon Stronhold, in the Propylon Chamber

kutulu 06-02-2004 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Scipio
Having the high quality equipment helps as well, and really isn't all that difficult to steal.
You could make it really easy by adding the secret master equipment through the console. :)

I've also heard a lot about how it's hard to raise enchanting. I have it as a major skill (bad choice) but I have no problem raising it. If you have a weapon you like that casts soultrap on strike and azura's star you can raise it quickly by trapping everything and using the gems to recharge enchanted items. I get 14 or 17 points (can't remember) towards skill increase for each gem used. It goes up quickly. I haven't kept track of what I get for actually enchanting something.

I also read that you can kill most merchants if you make an exquisite ring enchanted with a constant drain health spell and sell it to them. Ususally they will equip it. Wait for a day and they'll die.

saut 06-02-2004 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
You could make it really easy by adding the secret master equipment through the console. :)

I've also heard a lot about how it's hard to raise enchanting. I have it as a major skill (bad choice) but I have no problem raising it. If you have a weapon you like that casts soultrap on strike and azura's star you can raise it quickly by trapping everything and using the gems to recharge enchanted items. I get 14 or 17 points (can't remember) towards skill increase for each gem used. It goes up quickly. I haven't kept track of what I get for actually enchanting something.

I also read that you can kill most merchants if you make an exquisite ring enchanted with a constant drain health spell and sell it to them. Ususally they will equip it. Wait for a day and they'll die.

I've heard of this same tactic, only using a daedric helm. It's probably a safer bet to use the helm, since you can actually see them wearing it (and they'll always equip any armor that is better than what they have, and daedric usually fits the bill).

pixelbend 06-04-2004 12:11 PM

I guess you can carry too much stuff. I have a ton of scrolls in my inventory, mostly because I never use them and they are light enough not to bother me. But recentlyI have been picking up a few things and noticing that they are not in my inventory anymore.

Has anyone else seen that? I'm on XBox btw.

grayman 06-04-2004 12:20 PM

Have you been arrested by the guards? If you have been arrested and you pay your fine, they will take any stolen items you have. You can find them in the evidence chests in the nearest fort. I have found that sometimes the guards will even take things that I didn't steal and I am on XBox as well.

kutulu 06-04-2004 01:05 PM

Damn fucking guards, you should taunt them till they attack and then kick them in hte balls

TheClarkster 06-04-2004 01:20 PM

Fireball + ~88000 magicka + rooftop = revenge on those damn guards.

I finally killed one of the Hlaalu guards that always take away my hard earned stolen goods.

kutulu 06-04-2004 01:41 PM

I like spells and I try to use spells as much as I can but I can kill things so much more quickly with a couple of sword hacks than with spells. Maybe I just need to have a few spells made for me that do high damage.

It's also annoying when the enemy throws a spell at you and blows up the spell you just threw at him.

I have been having lots of fun with marksmanship lately. It's cool taking out cliff racers when you can barely even see them.

grayman 06-04-2004 02:39 PM

Marksman rules, it is my favorite attack type, especially with the unstoppable dwarven darts.

MrFlux 06-04-2004 04:00 PM

Hmm Tribunal was much too short for me :( And Dagoth Ur, to put it simply without giving any spoilers, was a fucking joke. Are you supposed to go kill him at level 20 or something?

saut 06-04-2004 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by MrFlux
Hmm Tribunal was much too short for me :( And Dagoth Ur, to put it simply without giving any spoilers, was a fucking joke. Are you supposed to go kill him at level 20 or something?
Agreed. What bothered me most, though, was his voice. Not very evil sounding at all.

grayman 06-07-2004 07:41 AM

I agree about Dagoth Ur.
Spoiler: At least you should have to really kick his ass after you destroy the heart. I accidentally knocked him into the lava before I attacked the heart and barely had to fight him at all.

2 questions

1. I was exploring today and on the island where Ald Redaynia is and near Assumanu there is a cave door that is buried by rocks except for the very top. Does anyone know what it is or if there is anything to it? A quest perhaps?

2. I have Morrowind GOTY for XBox, but I saw the PC version at the store the other day. I have beaten all 3 main quests, finished all the Mage and Fighter's guild, Temple, Morag Tong, House Huallu, Daedric Shrine quests and am currently working on the thieves guild and will probably start either Redoran or Telvanni soon. I have just wandered and found almost every major artifact. I have played as several different characters of varying races and classes. I have essentially scoured the island. I know there are still plenty of secrets for me to find, but I am running out of major goals. I love this game and would really like more. Has anyone here played both? Would it be worth buying the PC version for the chance to play the mods?

Destrox 06-07-2004 08:04 AM

I honestly couldnt imagine playing this game on a console, the precision of a mouse for shooting, and the ability to patch and mod out weighs anything a xbox could give. That was a opinion.

kutulu 06-07-2004 08:56 AM

Regarding the main quest, I'm at level 34 now and I've only completed the first couple of quests into the main quest. I'm finishing all the guilds and gathering items before I wage my assault in Dagoth Ur. Hopefully by the time I fight him I'll be able to kill him with 1 hit.

Can you buy dwarven darts? I find Deadric Arrows and Deadric Darts but I don't use them because I figure they'd be gone forever after that.

grayman 06-07-2004 10:08 AM

The only place I have ever found dwarven darts is in Mournhold. Well, actually under Mournhold as a part of the main quest. The good news is that you don't have to buy them, and there is an unlimited supply.

kutulu 06-07-2004 10:16 AM

Nice. I need to get back to Mournhold so that I can get an unenchanted Ebony Scimitar. Maybe I'll pick those up while I'm at it.

grayman 06-07-2004 10:36 PM

You just have to get them off of the dwemer archer centurions under the plaza. Best be quick, the more they throw at you, the less you can pick up off their bodies.

saut 06-08-2004 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
Regarding the main quest, I'm at level 34 now and I've only completed the first couple of quests into the main quest. I'm finishing all the guilds and gathering items before I wage my assault in Dagoth Ur. Hopefully by the time I fight him I'll be able to kill him with 1 hit.

Can you buy dwarven darts? I find Deadric Arrows and Deadric Darts but I don't use them because I figure they'd be gone forever after that.

Don't worry about old Daggy, he's quite a pushover, especially at level 34.


Recently I was looking for a good weapon to enchant with Vivec's soul for my evil balrog character to use, and all I could think of was a daedric warhammer, which was not quite befitting such a large character. I quickly remedied my situation with a quick journey into the Construction Set -- edited the stats for Stendar's Hammer to make it usable (lower weight, higher condition) and changed the name. Added it to my character via the console, and viola, instant unique weapon perfect for my character! This episode has made me wander into the construction set more frequently, and I may just take up a little bit of actual modding.


Oh, and about those arrows -- two ways you could solve the problem. One is to download a mod (forget the name) that gives a 100% chance of recovering the arrows or darts from a body you've shot. The other, although cheating, is to add more arrows to your inventory via the console. To do this, simply drop the arrows on the floor, open your console (press ~), and click on the arrows. When you've done this, something like daedric_arrow should appear at the top of your console. Then enter the following:

player->additem "daedric_arrow" X

(might not be daedric_arow, but will be something along those lines).
X is the quantity of arrows you will add to your inventory.



Be warned though: do not get in the habit of adding items via the console. It takes a lot of the fun out of the game.

kutulu 06-08-2004 08:41 AM

Ya I've considered the console, but it is cheating. However, the game gets so unbalanced even without cheating that after a while it won't make a difference. I keep on moving the difficulty slider up and now I'm ready for it to go all the way up. It's rare that someone can take more than two hits from Goldbrand. I also got Skullcrusher last night and thats even meaner than all my weapons right now.
The devs should have either made a lot more enemies or made them get tougher with you. It's really rare that I even need to take a health potion. About the only time that happens is when I get hit with a really tough poison spell with long duration and high damage.

Scipio 06-08-2004 09:51 AM

I tried to jump back into the game a while back, but the thrill is gone. Magery is like work, it's mindless to play as a warrior. Hybrid classes are too difficult to train, and are again like work to play. That's my biggest gripe at this point.

grayman 06-09-2004 04:19 AM

I found the GOTY edition for PC at Gamestop the other day. Does anyone know if it includes the construction set? It doesn't say on the box and the guy there didn't know.

pixelbend 06-09-2004 05:57 AM

Yeah, it does.

saut 06-09-2004 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
Ya I've considered the console, but it is cheating. However, the game gets so unbalanced even without cheating that after a while it won't make a difference. I keep on moving the difficulty slider up and now I'm ready for it to go all the way up. It's rare that someone can take more than two hits from Goldbrand. I also got Skullcrusher last night and thats even meaner than all my weapons right now.
The devs should have either made a lot more enemies or made them get tougher with you. It's really rare that I even need to take a health potion. About the only time that happens is when I get hit with a really tough poison spell with long duration and high damage.

Try downloading the GIANTS mod at some point, it adds a lot of new creatures that can actually challenge higher level players.

Skullcrusher is definitly one of the best weapons in the game. My evil character was using that for a looong time (the constant effect enchantments it has on it are especially nice, plus the one handed aspect).

Anyway, if you don't want to get the GIANTS mod, my advice to you would be to start a new character, completely different from that one you are playing now. Try playing some of the longer quest mods (sixth house mod, illuminated order, suran underworld) as well.

Some suggestions for a new character play style:

A monk or priest (join the temple or imperiel cult, or both) -- don't steal, don't kill anyone unless you absolutely have to, do random acts of holiness (don't ignore anyone you see on the side of the road who asks you to escort them somewhere). Definitly use unarmored and blunt weapon (staff especially) for major skills.


A vampire (make sure you use the vampire embrace mod) -- pretty obvious what to do with this one. There are FAQs on vampirism in Morrowind floating around, I'll dig a good one up for you if you're interested. When you get infected with vampirism, depending on which of the three vampire clans infected you, you'll get a +50 bonus to certain stats.



A totally evil character bent on the complete domination of Morrowind. Take over all the guilds, houses, and factions, kill the tribunal gods, and Dagoth Ur. Recommended mods: illuminated order, sixth house mod. This is similar to what I'm doing right now with my custom race balrog. I'm nearing the end of the illuminated order quests, which hopefully will lead to me becomming a lich (whatever that entails). Completing the sixth house mod led to the destruction of the ghostfence, so now all of Morrowind is in a near-constant state of ash storms (with red skies to match). The only problem with playing an evil character like this is the lack of random acts of evil to do, besides killing. I'd recommend playing a holy character or a vampire over an evil one simply because there's more to do. That, and everyone has a 0 disposition toward my balrog (which sucks). Every guard attacks me on sight (which means I had to use the console to get to Mournhold the first time), and many people just plain won't talk to me. Oh well.

MrFlux 06-10-2004 04:23 PM

Saut:
According to the readme for Illuminated Order, custom races cannot become liches.

As a side note, I'm currently playing an evil balrog too, it's fun looking down on everyone.

saut 06-11-2004 07:33 AM

Son of a BITCH! Oh well. I can always change my race via the console, I suppose. That sort of voids my cool balrog name though. :(

kutulu 06-11-2004 09:11 AM

Changing the race via console is kind of a bitch. I was going to change from Dark Elf to Breton but then you then have to add all your spells again, bring your skills back, re-raise you level to the previous state, etc.

Did you make the custom race yourself in the construction set or was it a plugin?

saut 06-11-2004 10:52 AM

It was a plugin. Not a very good one, actually. Just an orc model, made taller, red, and wings added (which it turns out are from another mod). I've pretty much abandoned that character... I made it to level 30 with him in a few weeks, it just wasn't very much fun. There's only so much random evil one can do in Morrowind. I'm starting a new paladin character now in the Imperial Cult (and maybe the Temple) who will be purely do-good. It's really, really hard not to steal anything at all. With my balrog character who had no morals, I had accrued several thousand dollars before I reached level 2. Now I barely have enough money to use silt striders.

kutulu 06-11-2004 02:32 PM

For the most part, my character has been a pretty good guy so far. He's never murdered anyone (except for a few Telvani Counselors since killing them is no crime), he has merely "defended himself" from people who can't take a few insults. I want to win the hearts of the people of Morrowind before I rip their guts out.

I'll definitely get the vampire embrace mod. I've been wanting to be a vamp, but since you can't do most quest things as a vamp I've avoided it so far.

MrFlux 06-11-2004 04:49 PM

If you choose The Lady as the birthsign for a balrog you start off with 75 Str AND 75 endurance.

Seems to be hard advancing in the Sixth House due to lack of intelligence though.

I'm level 5 and I have something like 200K gold to my name. I know where to obtain expensive items with no skills required ;) That is to say, I robbed the redoran vaults (lots of ebony stuff) and killed a few ordinators (don't you just love the easily exploitable AI in this game?)

saut 06-11-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
For the most part, my character has been a pretty good guy so far. He's never murdered anyone (except for a few Telvani Counselors since killing them is no crime), he has merely "defended himself" from people who can't take a few insults. I want to win the hearts of the people of Morrowind before I rip their guts out.

I'll definitely get the vampire embrace mod. I've been wanting to be a vamp, but since you can't do most quest things as a vamp I've avoided it so far.

You can do all the quests in the game as a vampire. You just need to raise their disposition toward you enough.

I already had to kill someone (speechcraft not high enough to taunt into attacking) for the limeware they stole. I didn't want to do it, but I didn't have a choice, really. I hope I can actually roleplay somewhat and not powergame like I usually do. I suppose getting all the uber items and a shitload of money early in the game because you know where to look is helpful in getting your character off the ground, but it sure does kill the ability to immerse yourself in the world. This is my first attempt at truly RPing -- my first character had no motivation other than to beat the main quest and become powerful. The balrog I played with the sixth house mod (along with other evil type mods) teetered on roleplaying at times, but it felt too much like what I had done with my first character. I'm hoping my new character can freshen the game up a bit for me.

Goddamn I feel like a dork.

kutulu 06-14-2004 08:57 AM

I've never been into RPing too much. I guess I just powergame (although I never heard the expression until I played MW). The people on the elderscrolls.com boards (aside from being immature assholes) are so snobbish about how powergaming is so bad. It's really annoying.

Anyways, I finally became a vampire. I spent an hour cliking an Anduae clan corpse and wasn't able to catch the disease so I ended up using the console (I use the console as little as possible). I also have a couple people addicted to me taking blood from them also. Something odd happened though. Instead of getting a 20 pt boost to speed, I got a 60 pt boost to speed. Now when I wear the BOBS, I have 360 speed and it's just too fast to control over short distances. Sadly, I can't wear them anymore. At least at 160 speed I can still get around fast enough in towns and only use the BOBS when running somewhere.

Also, with Greater Bonewalkers, they can damage stats permanentely and when you go to restore attributes you need to have the attribute showing in red. Before becoming a vamp, I'd just take off the enchanted item but now when all enchantments are off, I still have highlighted stats. Can you restore them back to normal or do you need the console?

saut 06-14-2004 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kutulu
I've never been into RPing too much. I guess I just powergame (although I never heard the expression until I played MW). The people on the elderscrolls.com boards (aside from being immature assholes) are so snobbish about how powergaming is so bad. It's really annoying.

Anyways, I finally became a vampire. I spent an hour cliking an Anduae clan corpse and wasn't able to catch the disease so I ended up using the console (I use the console as little as possible). I also have a couple people addicted to me taking blood from them also. Something odd happened though. Instead of getting a 20 pt boost to speed, I got a 60 pt boost to speed. Now when I wear the BOBS, I have 360 speed and it's just too fast to control over short distances. Sadly, I can't wear them anymore. At least at 160 speed I can still get around fast enough in towns and only use the BOBS when running somewhere.

Also, with Greater Bonewalkers, they can damage stats permanentely and when you go to restore attributes you need to have the attribute showing in red. Before becoming a vamp, I'd just take off the enchanted item but now when all enchantments are off, I still have highlighted stats. Can you restore them back to normal or do you need the console?

I've never been into RPing much either, I just can't seem to take the game seriously enough, or immerse myself enough. I'm trying (a little, at least) with my new character though -- only good deeds, try not to go get uber artifacts just because I know where they are from previous characters, don't train very much, and try not to use mark/recall or other teleportation (aside from Mage guilds). So far so good. I will never, however, go so far as to take my armor off when I enter my house and put on casual clothes, get undressed when going to sleep, roleplay friendships and romances, or any other such acts of supreme geekery.

I'd like to play a vampire character eventually as well, but as you described, I hear it can be quite hard to get legitimately infected with vampirism, which is mainly what stops me. Are you using the Vampire Embrace mod?

I'm not sure how to solve your problem with restoring stats, but a thread in this forum: http://www.forumplanet.com/rpgplanet...m.asp?fid=6167 might be able to help. If not, at least there's a ton of info on MW vampires for you to browse through.

Also, there is supposedly a mod being released in the next few days that will add a shitload of nice features. Here's an excerpt from the readme:

Quote:

3986 quests (no fed-ex type quests!)

Babies,children,teenagers,old people (new meshes and textures!)

Elaborate marriages,divorces,pregnancy!

Skinny people,fat people,normal size people (all new meshes and textures,with all new clothing,and armor meshes to fit the different sized people,that automatically changes to the appropriate size!)

All Guilds and Houses expanded,with hundreds of new quests,new houses for GuildMasters,and 6 level Strongholds (instead of the pitiful 3 level Strongholds!)

Imperial graveyards,tombs and crypts,with many integrated quests!

The ability to write in your new Journal (made just for your notes!),and write notes on all plain paper available in the game!

All npcs have the potential to not only be an adventuring partner,but also to become your husband or wife (quest npcs and main quest essential npcs only become available to journey with you have finished all quests involving them),this also means that the normal npcs that you have to escort in certain official Morrowind/expansions are no longer a pain to escort!

All new weapons,armor,clothing,and many other surprises!

All new housing system,including the ability to by houses owned by npcs in the official game & expansions!

The ability to sit in chairs and lie in beds (using all new meshes!),and all npcs with the scripted ability to sit and lie down when appropriate!

All npcs have completely unique and individual dialogue (except in regards to certain quests)

No more npcs wearing the same clothes everyday!
I'll post the link to it here when it's released if you'd like. I'm really anxious to see how sitting down and aging will be handled. Hopefully it's as good as the hype.

MrFlux 06-14-2004 10:59 PM

OK a question:

After you get so much bounty on your head that there's a death warrant on your head... how are you supposed to get rid of your bounty? IIRC most people won't talk to you if you're an outlaw. I was just planning on killing all the guards but I don't know if my character's quite strong enough for that...

grayman 06-15-2004 06:05 AM

The only way I know of to get rid of a death sentence bounty is to have started the "bloodbath" quest in the Council Club in Balmora for the guy in the fort near Balmora. He wil erase any bounty, but the guards will probably still attack you on sight.

saut 06-15-2004 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrFlux
OK a question:

After you get so much bounty on your head that there's a death warrant on your head... how are you supposed to get rid of your bounty? IIRC most people won't talk to you if you're an outlaw. I was just planning on killing all the guards but I don't know if my character's quite strong enough for that...

Well, you could join the Theives guild, which can take care of the bounty on your head. However, if the bounty is too high and you aren't already a member, you probably won't be able to join. The only way I could clear my bounty was by using a console command: player->setPCcrimelevel 0

TheClarkster 06-15-2004 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saut
3986 quests (no fed-ex type quests!)

...

No more npcs wearing the same clothes everyday!

That sounds absolutely insane.

Destrox 06-16-2004 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saut
Also, there is supposedly a mod being released in the next few days that will add a shitload of nice features. Here's an excerpt from the readme:

I'll post the link to it here when it's released if you'd like. I'm really anxious to see how sitting down and aging will be handled. Hopefully it's as good as the hype.

Could ya give us a name or even a non-download link that just shows us the info?

saut 06-16-2004 07:25 PM

It's not avaliable for download yet, but here is a thread on another forum that will give you the basic info: http://www.forumplanet.com/rpgplanet...13&tid=1390258


Edit: The mod developer's forums (no website yet apparantly) are located here: http://gbmorrowmods.1.forumer.com/in...p?showtopic=30 for more detailed information.

kutulu 06-18-2004 11:23 AM

Now that I'm a vamp, between my enchantments and vamp bonuses my str is 148 and speed is 360. I was going through the ghostgate area yesterday and you can cover some serious ground jumping. You can literally jump from mountaintop to mountaintop. Of course the health drops a bit when you overshoot the mountain...

Pham 07-14-2004 06:45 PM

ok.. the story and graphics and gameplay are all fine, but this game is unplayable because of the terrible character system.

First; You can buy stuff and then sell them back to the same guy for double the price. Each time you do this the store gets refilled with more of that item, so after a couple of times you can buy 1000 items, and sell them all for twice what you paid. Infinite free money.

Second; You can train most skills to 100. Just find the master trainer and pay some gold you got for free. Don't forget to sleep every ten points. Level 80+ and 100+ in all stats without killing a monster.

This makes killing monsters totally meaningless, since it's much faster to just train everything. Very boring.

You could ofcourse just not use trainers. But i rather play a game with a system that's not broken.

kutulu 07-15-2004 10:15 AM

The exploits are there for those who wish to use them. Nobody is forced to use them. You can't blame the game for your inablility to avoid using exploits.

grayman 12-23-2004 02:49 PM

I just recently installed this on my PC and would really like to get started with the construction set, but I'm apparently too retarded to figure it out. If anyone can help me with some basic tips on getting started, please pm me. Thanks


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