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CityOfAngels 12-27-2005 08:32 AM

Are they really still using this excuse?
 
So I was at a family gathering on Christmas, and the topic of Republicans and Bush came up. My cousin, who is in her late 30's, said, "I'm a total Bush supporter. I'm a Republican all the way. I'm glad we're in Iraq. It is our duty to show them that they can't come and attack us like they did on 9/11." I was sickened by this remark. Is that REALLY the republican view? Are republicans so brainwashed to think that the Middle-East as a whole are united against us? I'm sorry, but I don't remember Saddam sending people on planes to crash into the WTC and the Pentagon. I specifically remember a terrorist organization, "Al Qaeda" (sp?), taking full credit for that.

Afghanistan was just a test run for us; for Iraq. The Bush administration was testing to see if we'd actually go for that sort of crap. Amazingly the general (re)public let itself become brainwashed, and they saw that as a green light to attack Iraq under completely false pretenses. And we're still there! Why? I keep hearing: "Saddam was viciously killing his own people, and Uday was a master of torture!" Yeah well what the hell are WE doing there? Aren't we doing the same thing? We're killing Iraqi's, both innocent and hostile alike, and we're even going so far as to torturing them!

I'm really tired of this stupidity that the whole world has seemed to adopt.

Note: I put this in nonsense because:
a) I know the potential this thread has to start a flame war.
and b) The fact that I even have to post a thread like this is NONSENSE!

Fly 12-27-2005 09:27 AM

seeing as how it's in nonsense.........


......i need a quart or two of oil for my truck eh......


*fuckin' sheeple*

grumpyolddude 12-27-2005 09:49 AM

http://www.sheeple.net/Sheeple.htm

Willravel 12-27-2005 10:03 AM

COA, all this tells us is that our leaders are getting better and better at brainwashing. I hope you said something to your cousin. I will if you don't want to. :thumbsup:

Poppinjay 12-27-2005 10:37 AM

They actually caught bin Laden, but he used his jedi powers.

"You do not need to see my identification."

"These are not the terrorists you're looking for."

"We can go on about our business."

Fly 12-27-2005 10:38 AM

ahahhhahaha.......i laughed my ass off on this........


http://www.dumpalink.com/media/11355...rge_Bush_drunk

flamingdog 12-27-2005 11:45 AM

I just don't understand why politics has become a team game. Why does Republican/Democrat, conservative/liberal matter? Why is everything us and them, all the fucking time? Why do we always have to position ourselves in this adverserial way?

uncle phil 12-27-2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyman
ahahhhahaha.......i laughed my ass off on this........


http://www.dumpalink.com/media/11355...rge_Bush_drunk

fly, this is absolutely fuckin' hilarious...what better place than nonsense...

Fly 12-27-2005 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamingdog
I just don't understand why politics has become a team game. Why does Republican/Democrat, conservative/liberal matter? Why is everything us and them, all the fucking time? Why do we always have to position ourselves in this adverserial way?



they want us to sucumb..........the bastards.





Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle phil
fly, this is absolutely fuckin' hilarious...what better place than nonsense...


yeah...........nonsense it is........pretty fuckin' funny though.......and i can soooooo totally picture it too.

flamingdog 12-27-2005 06:47 PM

:lol:

Who is that guy?

CityOfAngels 12-27-2005 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
COA, all this tells us is that our leaders are getting better and better at brainwashing. I hope you said something to your cousin. I will if you don't want to. :thumbsup:

I did. I told her, "Iraq didn't attack us, and neither did Afghanistan. It was allegedly Osama Bin Laden's minions. Osama is probably chillin' with his sluts somewhere in Iran, a country we're in bed with." It was a group conversation, and she decided to leave the conversation after everyone involved agreed with me. I'm not about to harass her after she intentionally left the conversation. I did say something, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamingdog
I just don't understand why politics has become a team game. Why does Republican/Democrat, conservative/liberal matter? Why is everything us and them, all the fucking time? Why do we always have to position ourselves in this adverserial way?

The truth is it shouldn't matter, but we let it. If we all could be on the same page, that would be ideal. But the modern bourguoisie, just like the old, holds the power and uses it to keep us separated. Our middle class is dwindling, and hostility is indeed building between each political party. Thing is democrats are pretty much just as bad. Right now I wouldn't say the conflict is "Republicans v. Democrats," but rather "The heartless uneducated v. the educated humans."

WillyPete 12-27-2005 09:14 PM

I watched the other video, about drunk Bush, Funny.

Then I found this and we wonder why America gets a bad name?

http://www.dumpalink.com/media/11336...e_At_Civilians

CityOfAngels 12-27-2005 09:32 PM

Actually I heard those contractors were British.

WillyPete 12-28-2005 07:25 PM

Could be, but we don't have Colts.

Add to it that most brits don't know country music which is the theme for the video and it 'looks' american.


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