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johnnymysto · 01-21-2004, 08:54 AM

Since Marvel's working on the movie for Man-Thing, it got me to thinking: which one came first in the comics - Swamp Thing or Man-Thing? Was one a copy of the other just to keep up with the Joneses? (Swamp Thing is DC Comics; Man-Thing is Marvel.)

Psivage · 01-21-2004, 09:04 AM

Swamp Thing came first. Swamp Thing is an elemental, which I do believe he protects the land, while Man-Thing just protects the Nexus of Realites, in the swamp. At least that what i think, I haven't read any Swamp Thing for quite awhile.

EDIT: Swamp Thing Sept 1971, Man Thing: May 1971. I was wrong

gilada · 01-21-2004, 10:37 AM

I always heard it was just a co-inky-dink that they were created around the same time.

Fremen · 01-21-2004, 02:13 PM

I read a couple of Man-thing comics a long time ago. Don't remember much, though.
Anybody know his origin?

Also, how close was the Swamp Thing movie to the comic?

Psivage · 01-21-2004, 02:31 PM

From what I remember of the Man-Thing origin he was working on the super serum that made Captain America, he wife betrayed him and I think the Mafia, came in and either gun him down and set fire to the place or just blew the place up, and the serum mixed with the swamp, and changed Ted Sallis.

EDIT: To keep AIM from getting its hands on the serum he devised to allow people to survive in polluted environimants, chemist Ted Sallis injects himself with it, and its properties combine with the mystic powers of the swamp to turn him into a near-mindless Man-Thing.

I was way off.

gnort · 01-21-2004, 04:27 PM

Yeah, Man-Thing did come before Swamp Thing and hopefully the Man-Thing movie will be better than Swamp Thing...or the even worse Swamp Thing 2.

<a href="http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/manthing.htm" target="_blank">More Man-Thing Info</a>

Fremen · 04-19-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gnort

Yeah, Man-Thing did come before Swamp Thing and hopefully the Man-Thing movie will be better than Swamp Thing...or the even worse Swamp Thing 2.

<a href="http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/manthing.htm" target="_blank">More Man-Thing Info</a>

From what I read, it doesn't sound like the Man-Thing movie will be any good.
Here's a review from moviehole.com...(may contain spoilers so I'll spoilerize it)
http://www.moviehole.net/reviews/1487.html

Quote:

Spoiler: Marvel have really outdone themselves when it comes to their film plights over the last few years: They amalgamated the all-too-rare fusion of story with special effect for the “X-Men” series, astonished us with the blistering brawn and brilliant blueprint of “Spider-Man”, and instantly made us forget that Thomas ‘The Punisher’ Jane ever gave to life a sniffily, coke-consuming buddy of Dirk Diggler. Now, prepare yourself for the ultimate Marvel experience: Big-breasted beauties swimming in corn syrup, Aussies with irksome, disbelieving Louisiana accents, and cheap, fruitless effects that do nothing to help proceedings look any less minor than, dare I say, “The Howling 3”.

“Man-Thing” is a far bigger blow than anything Linda Lovelace could’ve bought to the table. If the comic-book stables previous cinematic efforts were a Chocolate-adorned caramel filled Cornetto ice cream, then this is the unappetizing defrosted home-brand water ice. It’s that cheap.

From the get-go, “Man-Thing” was always intended as a direct to video release – though there were whispers of a theatrical a few times – and they’ve done nothing to go out of their way to look anything but that. With a template so thin and feeble you’ll swear it was once the script for a discarded “Razorback” sequel, and a bunch of green-coloured flood lights standing in for where effects would normally be placed – this is cinema doing the Limbo. “How low can you go?”

The Man-Thing, first introduced in a five-issue comic series in the 70’s, is a mysterious monster living in the Florida Everglades. Much like a German shepherd, he attacks those who are fearful of him – but takes a step back from those that aren’t.

We’re first introduced to his presence, when he attacks – out of nowhere – a young couple doing it horizontal style, while floating their dingy on the lake. Enter, the new sheriff in town, Kyle Williams (Matthew Le Nevez) – the one man brave enough to come face to face with the urban legend no one dares goes a-chasing. Cue the smoke, write in some quick cuts, turn up the amp on the sound…

Big waste of time and talent here folks. Close your eyes if you don’t want to see what happened to the great Jack Thompson of “Sunday too Far Away” or “Breaker Morant”, and keep them closed if you don’t want to see what the terrific Brett Leonard (“Virtuosity”, “The Lawnmower Man”) is playing film daddy to these days. (You may want to open them for model Imogen Bailey’s first appearance in the picture though: At her finest when she’s undressed). It’s sad to think that Australian talent have to be reduced to doing such C-grade studio pap.

If film fans are let down with the result, imagine how the comic fans will feel: Not only is there really only the one fleeting appearance from the title character, but also his background story is almost near existent, and ultimately, his first foray into film: likely to be his last. While most Marvel movies have been imaginative, well-planned efforts, “Man-Thing” is as by-the-numbers as Bingo. It doesn’t even deserve to bare the all-familiar ‘Marvel’ title card at its commencement.

Here's the Sci-fi Channel link...
http://www.scifi.com/onair/scifipictures/

I remember M-T as a quasi-good guy. This just sounds very different from my childhood memories of him.

01-21-2004, 08:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
johnnymysto Overreactor Location: South Ca'lina	Swamp Thing vs. Man-Thing Since Marvel's working on the movie for Man-Thing, it got me to thinking: which one came first in the comics - Swamp Thing or Man-Thing? Was one a copy of the other just to keep up with the Joneses? (Swamp Thing is DC Comics; Man-Thing is Marvel.) __________________ "I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request." - Capt. Barbossa

01-21-2004, 09:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Psivage Psycho	Swamp Thing came first. Swamp Thing is an elemental, which I do believe he protects the land, while Man-Thing just protects the Nexus of Realites, in the swamp. At least that what i think, I haven't read any Swamp Thing for quite awhile. EDIT: Swamp Thing Sept 1971, Man Thing: May 1971. I was wrong Last edited by Psivage; 01-21-2004 at 09:12 AM..

01-21-2004, 10:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
gilada Psycho Location: Dallas, Tx	I always heard it was just a co-inky-dink that they were created around the same time. __________________ Hey, this isn't rocket surgery. See my futurephone pics at: http://gilada.textamerica.com See my DVD's at: http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=gilada

01-21-2004, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	I read a couple of Man-thing comics a long time ago. Don't remember much, though. Anybody know his origin? Also, how close was the Swamp Thing movie to the comic? __________________ Google

01-21-2004, 02:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Psivage Psycho	From what I remember of the Man-Thing origin he was working on the super serum that made Captain America, he wife betrayed him and I think the Mafia, came in and either gun him down and set fire to the place or just blew the place up, and the serum mixed with the swamp, and changed Ted Sallis. EDIT: To keep AIM from getting its hands on the serum he devised to allow people to survive in polluted environimants, chemist Ted Sallis injects himself with it, and its properties combine with the mystic powers of the swamp to turn him into a near-mindless Man-Thing. I was way off. Last edited by Psivage; 01-21-2004 at 02:36 PM..

01-21-2004, 04:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
gnort Psycho Location: MA	Yeah, Man-Thing did come before Swamp Thing and hopefully the Man-Thing movie will be better than Swamp Thing...or the even worse Swamp Thing 2. <a href="http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/manthing.htm" target="_blank">More Man-Thing Info</a> __________________ You had me at Qapla'