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Xiangsu · 09-16-2003, 06:38 AM

I have seen the movie two times now and the second time was just the other day. I noticed something the other day at the end that I guess I just missed the first time around. What exactly happened at the end? He went to his brother and he starts shooting at him and then it fades to white and he is in the hospital talking to the kid. What happened there? Did he die and the last bit was one of those death dream sequences? Of course then Once upon in Mexico wouldn't make much sense, but they are written by different people so it could have just been a mix up. Someone please let me know in the nicest, and fastest, way possible.

CSflim · 09-16-2003, 09:41 AM

Have you seen El Mariatchi?
It was rodriguez's (sp?) first film, and a prequel to Desperado.
I can't remember Desperado exactly, but I think the answer to your question may be that the scene in question is a flash back to El Mariatchi.

IckUber · 09-16-2003, 12:38 PM

once upon a time in mexico was rockin.

World's King · 09-16-2003, 01:19 PM

They were written by the same guy... Robert Rodriguez.

And "Mexico" is not a sequal... it's a sequal/remake... just like "Desperado" was a sequal/remake of "El Mariachi".

Xiangsu · 09-16-2003, 01:48 PM

I thought El Mariachi was a sequel to Desperado, but I didnt really look into it. Now I have to see El Mariachi and it better make the end to Desperado make sense or I am going to come back here and bitch like a little school girl...To be continued...

docbungle · 09-16-2003, 07:03 PM

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And "Mexico" is not a sequal... it's a sequal/remake... just like "Desperado" was a sequal/remake of "El Mariachi".

No; Desperado was a big-budget remake of El Mariachi.

Once Upon a Time in Mexico is a sequel, not a remake of anything. It is a horrible film that doesn't hold a candle to the other two.

CSflim · 09-17-2003, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by docbungle
No; Desperado was a big-budget remake of El Mariachi.

Once Upon a Time in Mexico is a sequel, not a remake of anything. It is a horrible film that doesn't hold a candle to the other two.

No, desperado is definately a sequel....just a very similar sequel! Kinda link Escape From New Yourk/Escape from L.A.

The lead character has the busted up hand which he recieved at the end of El Mariatchi.

Lunchbox7 · 09-17-2003, 05:02 AM

Desperado is one of my favourite movies. i watch it like all the time. El Mariachi kills his brother and finallises his quest for vengence which is why he can throw his guns away at the end. He goes back to pick them up because he kills the bad guy at the end of El Mariachi but he isnt the major bad guy. Which means more people can come after him. Remember His brother was freaking out because his boss might kill him. While he had enough of vengence because he had to look into the mirror of his anger (his brother) he did know that others might still hunt him.

Desperado is the sequal to El Mariachi. El Mariachi is about the main character getting mistaken for a murderer. He is on the run. he doesnt want to hurt anyone. This Bar wench hides him and they fall in love. At the end the bad dudes shoot her and his hand (a scene at the beginning of desperado to make the plot make sense), he goes mental and kills them. In desperado he becomes the hunter and is desperate for vengence. The crime organisation killed his love and destroyed his life (Couldnt be a mariachi anymore). In El Mariachi he says at the beginning that his father and his fathers father were all mariachi's. All he wanted to be was a mariachi but it was hard because of modern technology taking the art and the respect out of the profession. He just wants to be a mariachi and cant because his hand gets shot up. This comes out more in Desperado when he is teaching the kid to play the guitar and has heaps of trouble using his left hand. I have no idea why people have thought it is a remake. It has the same main character and similar bad dudes but that comes with all sequals. I havent seen Once Upon a Time in Mexico but Im looking forward to it

World's King · 09-17-2003, 12:25 PM

Three movies. Same plot line. Same writer/director.

They are all sequal/remakes.

dragonhawk · 09-18-2003, 06:49 AM

Once Upon a Time in Mexico was okay. A little over the top on the gore department. Too much Johnny Depp and not enough of Salma.

El Mariachi is a good movie.

I love trying to pick out the actors that are in ALL of his movies (from Desparado to Dusk till Dawn to Spy Kids)
Seems as if he has a little family that he makes movies with.

Salma Hayek
George Cloony
Antonio Banderas
Cheech Marin
Danny Trejo
Steve Buscemi

At least one of these is in almost every movie he has done.

09-16-2003, 06:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Xiangsu Addict Location: Illinois	Desperado I have seen the movie two times now and the second time was just the other day. I noticed something the other day at the end that I guess I just missed the first time around. What exactly happened at the end? He went to his brother and he starts shooting at him and then it fades to white and he is in the hospital talking to the kid. What happened there? Did he die and the last bit was one of those death dream sequences? Of course then Once upon in Mexico wouldn't make much sense, but they are written by different people so it could have just been a mix up. Someone please let me know in the nicest, and fastest, way possible.

09-16-2003, 09:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	Have you seen El Mariatchi? It was rodriguez's (sp?) first film, and a prequel to Desperado. I can't remember Desperado exactly, but I think the answer to your question may be that the scene in question is a flash back to El Mariatchi. __________________

09-16-2003, 12:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
IckUber Funran Location: Norman, OK	once upon a time in mexico was rockin. __________________ How much is y'all Piolkles?

09-16-2003, 01:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	They were written by the same guy... Robert Rodriguez. And "Mexico" is not a sequal... it's a sequal/remake... just like "Desperado" was a sequal/remake of "El Mariachi". __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

09-17-2003, 12:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	Three movies. Same plot line. Same writer/director. They are all sequal/remakes. __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

09-16-2003, 01:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Xiangsu Addict Location: Illinois	I thought El Mariachi was a sequel to Desperado, but I didnt really look into it. Now I have to see El Mariachi and it better make the end to Desperado make sense or I am going to come back here and bitch like a little school girl...To be continued...

09-17-2003, 05:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lunchbox7 Addict	Desperado is one of my favourite movies. i watch it like all the time. El Mariachi kills his brother and finallises his quest for vengence which is why he can throw his guns away at the end. He goes back to pick them up because he kills the bad guy at the end of El Mariachi but he isnt the major bad guy. Which means more people can come after him. Remember His brother was freaking out because his boss might kill him. While he had enough of vengence because he had to look into the mirror of his anger (his brother) he did know that others might still hunt him. Desperado is the sequal to El Mariachi. El Mariachi is about the main character getting mistaken for a murderer. He is on the run. he doesnt want to hurt anyone. This Bar wench hides him and they fall in love. At the end the bad dudes shoot her and his hand (a scene at the beginning of desperado to make the plot make sense), he goes mental and kills them. In desperado he becomes the hunter and is desperate for vengence. The crime organisation killed his love and destroyed his life (Couldnt be a mariachi anymore). In El Mariachi he says at the beginning that his father and his fathers father were all mariachi's. All he wanted to be was a mariachi but it was hard because of modern technology taking the art and the respect out of the profession. He just wants to be a mariachi and cant because his hand gets shot up. This comes out more in Desperado when he is teaching the kid to play the guitar and has heaps of trouble using his left hand. I have no idea why people have thought it is a remake. It has the same main character and similar bad dudes but that comes with all sequals. I havent seen Once Upon a Time in Mexico but Im looking forward to it

09-18-2003, 06:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
dragonhawk Psycho Location: In Games.	Once Upon a Time in Mexico was okay. A little over the top on the gore department. Too much Johnny Depp and not enough of Salma. El Mariachi is a good movie. I love trying to pick out the actors that are in ALL of his movies (from Desparado to Dusk till Dawn to Spy Kids) Seems as if he has a little family that he makes movies with. Salma Hayek George Cloony Antonio Banderas Cheech Marin Danny Trejo Steve Buscemi At least one of these is in almost every movie he has done. __________________ ---------------------------------------------- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.