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fresnelly · 10-01-2009, 06:25 PM

Great show, fun concept, Christine Woods/Janis Hawk is hot, yadda, yadda, yadda... I'm in!

You know what's really bugging me, even though I accept that it's a nitpick? The Stadium where Suspect Zero was seen must have hundreds of security cameras covering all angles and they're only using the footage from one of them?

Any theories on the big questions? (I haven't read the book it's loosely based on)

I think the flashforward is just a warm up for another, more drastic event. The motivation could be on some sort of religio/philosophic kick in the ass of the status quo by zealots, or some Outsiders like aliens or time travellers.

Good stuff!

Reese · 10-02-2009, 11:48 AM

I was thinking the same thing. That stadium had to have cameras on every corner.

Open Spoilers Below.

I think the blackout is going to be a self-fulfilled prophecy or a paradox where it causes itself. Scientists see something happen and start working like hell to reproduce it. In 6 months they might have figured it out. We're already seeing glimpses of self fulfilling things. He was given the job of investigating the blackout because he had a vision that he was investigating it. He burned his friendship bracelet trying to change the future but if he'd payed closer attention he would have realized the bracelet he burned was NOT the same one in his vision. He basically set himself up to be given a new one when he tells his daughter he lost it.

We also assume that something happened in the characters' present day that showed them visions of the future. What if the thing that caused it is used from the future and it sent visions of the present to people 6 months prior?

I'm really enjoying the show so far. I really like John Cho playing serious roles. He was great in Star Trek and now this.

Oh.. What's with the attempted humor in the 2nd episode where his boss admits to being on the toilet and giving mouth to mouth to the guy that drowned in the urinal? It seemed so out of place.

fresnelly · 10-02-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reese

Oh.. What's with the attempted humor in the 2nd episode where his boss admits to being on the toilet and giving mouth to mouth to the guy that drowned in the urinal? It seemed so out of place.

Totally! Dude saved a man's life. How is that an embarassing secret? When you think about it, passing out and drowning in a toilet is a pretty chilling nod to the variety of ways people died during the blackout.

Leto · 10-03-2009, 04:00 AM

damn.. i missed the second show, didn't see which night it was on. Which network shows it? Perhaps it's posted on their site.

Fremen · 10-03-2009, 06:40 AM

It's on Thursday night at 8:00 Eastern on ABC.

I'm digging this show. Except for the doctor/wife.

Thanks for pointing out the stadium camera inconsistency, fresnelly.

Now that's bugging me, too.

Reese · 10-03-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Leto

damn.. i missed the second show, didn't see which night it was on. Which network shows it? Perhaps it's posted on their site.

If you're in the US, It's available on hulu.com It may also be coming on Saturday night on ABC.

ratbastid · 10-03-2009, 07:00 PM

We just caught up on our DVR'ed eps 1 and 2. Interesting stuff. Time travel is my favorite SciFi subgenre--I love contemplating paradoxes.

What these FBI dudes haven't twigged to yet is, there's a classic null causality problem on their corkboard. Those things are up there because he saw them up there, so they go hunt them down to put them up there so that they're up there on April 20 for him to see. Never noticing that the causality is entirely circular. It's exactly like John Locke's compass in the last couple episodes of LOST, which is eternally going through a time loop.

How such stories usually end up is, without the glimpse into the future, the future that got glimpsed never could have happened, and without that future having happened, the glimpse never could have occurred. It's a nice second-level paradox, and I'm enjoying watching it play out in a major-network, high-profile drama.

Joseph Fiennes is doing very nice work too, I think. Also, dammit-EVERYBODY is in this show! Penny! Roldy! The dude from Law and Order!

yournamehere · 10-05-2009, 11:36 AM

Well, obviously it won't be the last thing to happen, either. I believe that in the book, everyone flash-forwarded 21 years; in the television show it's only six months, which happens to be the night the program is on, and also right at the end of the television season. Something tells me that as soon as April 29 comes, and they think they have it all figured out, there will be another one. Then they'll have two more episodes to bait the hook for next season.

For a very interesting but very Big Spoiler of the book, read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashforward_(novel)

It'll be interesting to see it play out, and see how it does against some popular Thursday night competition - Bones on Fox, Survivor on CBS, and 30 Rock on NBC. I can only record one show & watch another; I'll have to make a decision on which one to drop (except Survivor - which I stopped watching after Season 1). Probably both FlashForward and 30 Rock will be available On Demand, though.

EDIT LATER: I was wrong about the 8:00 NBC lineup - FlashForward will be up against Community and Parks & Recreation; 30 Rock will be on at 9:30.

Willravel · 10-18-2009, 10:32 AM

I'm trying my best to get into this, but I swear it's becoming tedious. It takes some pretty bad writing to get me bored with Jon Cho and Joseph Fiennes.

Charlatan · 10-18-2009, 04:25 PM

The first episode just played here last night and it is sitting on my DVR waiting for me to screen it this week... It looks like it will be fun.

mrklixx · 11-13-2009, 12:05 AM

I like the show, but c'mon. Spoiler: How do become an FBI agent, working terrorism cases, and not know that military units (as well as gangs, clubs, militias, band members, fraternities, etc, etc) often have identical tattoos?!?

10-01-2009, 06:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
fresnelly Functionally Appropriate Location: Toronto	FlashForward Great show, fun concept, Christine Woods/Janis Hawk is hot, yadda, yadda, yadda... I'm in! You know what's really bugging me, even though I accept that it's a nitpick? The Stadium where Suspect Zero was seen must have hundreds of security cameras covering all angles and they're only using the footage from one of them? Any theories on the big questions? (I haven't read the book it's loosely based on) I think the flashforward is just a warm up for another, more drastic event. The motivation could be on some sort of religio/philosophic kick in the ass of the status quo by zealots, or some Outsiders like aliens or time travellers. Good stuff! __________________ Building an artificial intelligence that appreciates Mozart is easy. Building an A.I. that appreciates a theme restaurant is the real challenge - Kit Roebuck - Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

10-02-2009, 11:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
Reese Delicious	I was thinking the same thing. That stadium had to have cameras on every corner. Open Spoilers Below. I think the blackout is going to be a self-fulfilled prophecy or a paradox where it causes itself. Scientists see something happen and start working like hell to reproduce it. In 6 months they might have figured it out. We're already seeing glimpses of self fulfilling things. He was given the job of investigating the blackout because he had a vision that he was investigating it. He burned his friendship bracelet trying to change the future but if he'd payed closer attention he would have realized the bracelet he burned was NOT the same one in his vision. He basically set himself up to be given a new one when he tells his daughter he lost it. We also assume that something happened in the characters' present day that showed them visions of the future. What if the thing that caused it is used from the future and it sent visions of the present to people 6 months prior? I'm really enjoying the show so far. I really like John Cho playing serious roles. He was great in Star Trek and now this. Oh.. What's with the attempted humor in the 2nd episode where his boss admits to being on the toilet and giving mouth to mouth to the guy that drowned in the urinal? It seemed so out of place. __________________ “It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick” - Dave Barry

10-03-2009, 04:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	damn.. i missed the second show, didn't see which night it was on. Which network shows it? Perhaps it's posted on their site. __________________ You said you didn't give a fuck about hockey And I never saw someone say that before You held my hand and we walked home the long way You were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Leto_Atreides_I

10-03-2009, 06:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	It's on Thursday night at 8:00 Eastern on ABC. I'm digging this show. Except for the doctor/wife. Thanks for pointing out the stadium camera inconsistency, fresnelly. Now that's bugging me, too. __________________ Google

10-05-2009, 11:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
yournamehere Invisible Location: tentative, at best	Well, obviously it won't be the last thing to happen, either. I believe that in the book, everyone flash-forwarded 21 years; in the television show it's only six months, which happens to be the night the program is on, and also right at the end of the television season. Something tells me that as soon as April 29 comes, and they think they have it all figured out, there will be another one. Then they'll have two more episodes to bait the hook for next season. For a very interesting but very Big Spoiler of the book, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashforward_(novel) It'll be interesting to see it play out, and see how it does against some popular Thursday night competition - Bones on Fox, Survivor on CBS, and 30 Rock on NBC. I can only record one show & watch another; I'll have to make a decision on which one to drop (except Survivor - which I stopped watching after Season 1). Probably both FlashForward and 30 Rock will be available On Demand, though. EDIT LATER: I was wrong about the 8:00 NBC lineup - FlashForward will be up against Community and Parks & Recreation; 30 Rock will be on at 9:30. __________________ If you want to avoid 95% of internet spelling errors: "If your ridiculous pants are too loose, you're definitely going to lose them. Tell your two loser friends over there that they're going to lose theirs, too." It won't hurt your fashion sense, either. Last edited by yournamehere; 10-05-2009 at 01:01 PM..

10-03-2009, 07:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	We just caught up on our DVR'ed eps 1 and 2. Interesting stuff. Time travel is my favorite SciFi subgenre--I love contemplating paradoxes. What these FBI dudes haven't twigged to yet is, there's a classic null causality problem on their corkboard. Those things are up there because he saw them up there, so they go hunt them down to put them up there so that they're up there on April 20 for him to see. Never noticing that the causality is entirely circular. It's exactly like John Locke's compass in the last couple episodes of LOST, which is eternally going through a time loop. How such stories usually end up is, without the glimpse into the future, the future that got glimpsed never could have happened, and without that future having happened, the glimpse never could have occurred. It's a nice second-level paradox, and I'm enjoying watching it play out in a major-network, high-profile drama. Joseph Fiennes is doing very nice work too, I think. Also, dammit-EVERYBODY is in this show! Penny! Roldy! The dude from Law and Order!

10-18-2009, 10:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I'm trying my best to get into this, but I swear it's becoming tedious. It takes some pretty bad writing to get me bored with Jon Cho and Joseph Fiennes.

10-18-2009, 04:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	The first episode just played here last night and it is sitting on my DVR waiting for me to screen it this week... It looks like it will be fun. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

11-13-2009, 12:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
mrklixx President Rick Location: location location	I like the show, but c'mon. Spoiler: How do become an FBI agent, working terrorism cases, and not know that military units (as well as gangs, clubs, militias, band members, fraternities, etc, etc) often have identical tattoos?!? __________________ This post is content. If you don't like it then you are not content. Or perhaps just incontinent. This is not a link - Do not click here I hate animated avatars.