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Xazy · 01-05-2006, 04:54 AM

I can not find the article though I heard it on the news. There was a case in which a judge just ruled that a man who had mooned his neighbor is not indecent, since women can wear thongs at a beach. And we thus cannot discriminate against men.

Yep, I think that ruling is messed up personally, then again I have seen a few thongs that I wished the person could get arrested for wearing.

maleficent · 01-05-2006, 04:59 AM

Google news is our friend.. .

Man cleared of wrongdoing for mooning

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Rockville, Maryland - A Maryland man charged with flashing his bare buttocks at his neighbour during an argument has avoided a possible three-year prison sentence after a judge ruled that the act was tasteless, but legal.

Judge John W Debelius III - overturning an earlier decision by another judge - said that what Raymond Hugh McNealy reportedly did was a "disgusting" and "demeaning" act. But it was not illegal.

"If exposure of half of the buttock constituted indecent exposure, any woman wearing a thong at the beach at Ocean City would be guilty," Debelius said.

McNealy's neighbour, Nanette Vonfeldt, accused him of yelling at her and threatening to "blow up my building" as she and her daughter walked out of their apartment. The two had a heated meeting the night before at the home owner's association, according to McNealy's attorneys, and McNealy wanted Vonfeldt off the board, The Washington Post reported in its Wednesday edition.

Ok - os that's a mature way to end an argument...

The ruling has to make plumbers happy though...

He should have been arrested for the thread of blowing up the building... that'd get him shot in an airport ...

PayUp · 01-05-2006, 03:47 PM

I always thought that mooning was funny.

Infact when I die I want to be burried face down so everyone can kiss my ass goodbye.

skier · 01-05-2006, 04:11 PM

What I really want to know is the story behind the story.

Why was the argument heated?
What caused the rivalry?
How could a man be driven to moon a mother and daughter?

maleficent · 01-05-2006, 04:55 PM

more on the story
You Can Pull Your Pants Down in Maryland!

Ah America, where you're free to let your buttocks hang out in the breeze.

A Montgomery County Circuit Court judge ruled Tuesday that, while not tasteful, mooning someone in Maryland is not illegal, according to The Washington Post.

The decision acquitted a Germantown man who bared his buttocks during a fight with his neighbor, reversing the earlier guilty of indecent exposure verdict of a district court judge.

"If exposure of half of the buttock constituted indecent exposure, any woman wearing a thong at the beach at Ocean City would be guilty," Judge John W. Debelius III said following the trial.

Saying that the alleged butt-bearing was undeniably "disgusting" and "demeaning," Debelius said if the defendant had been on trial for "being a jerk" his ruling might have gone the other way.

The defendant, Raymond Hugh McNealy, 44, allegedly yelled at neighbor Nanette Vonfeldt on June 7 and threatened to "blow up" her building as she and her 8-year-old daughter walked out of their apartment.

"Then, for whatever reason, in full view of my daughter, he mooned us," Vonfeldt wrote in court papers.

McNealy's attorneys said the two had been arguing for a while about disagreements over their homeowners association and McNealy wanted Vonfeldt kicked off the board.

Montgomery District Court Judge Eugene Wolfe got the case first on Sept. 12 and ruled against the alleged butt-bearer — whose attorneys appealed the decision, saying indecent exposure in Maryland is a willful public exposing of "private parts," not buttocks.

A $1,000 fine and up to three years in prison is the punishment for indecent exposure in Maryland.

The indecent exposure law in the state is ambiguous, Montgomery County prosecutor Dan Barnett told The Washington Post.

"In our minds, this was not a bathing suit scenario," Barnett told the Post. "This was a grown man exposing himself to an 8-year-old girl."

The case of a female protester arrested in 1983 demonstrating outside the Supreme Court in nothing but a sign covering the front of her body was cited by the defense. "Indecent exposure" is limited to a person's genitals, the D.C. Court of Appeals later ruled in 1986.

James Maxwell, one of McNealy's attorneys, told the Post the ruling should "bring comfort to all beachgoers and plumbers" in Maryland.

rlynnm · 01-05-2006, 04:59 PM

Fairness, what fairness?

How come women's private parts can be shown in the media without sucha big hustle-bustle, yet a man's privates are so private they aren't exploited equally?!

No justice I tell you. No justice.

Let them all show their buns, so when we take our hands to cop a feel we won't be surprised by butt fuzz.

Carno · 01-05-2006, 05:04 PM

Because men are disgusting.

maleficent · 01-05-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Carn

Because men are disgusting.

nuh uh-- men are cute... and they are really good at opening jars too... and killing spiders...

rlynnm · 01-05-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

nuh uh-- men are cute... and they are really good at opening jars too... and killing spiders...

heehee their usefulness doesn't make 'em any less disgusting

Carno · 01-06-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rlynnm

Let them all show their buns, so when we take our hands to cop a feel we won't be surprised by butt fuzz.

LOL!

Somehow I missed that the first time I read your post

serlindsipity · 01-06-2006, 07:27 PM

The judge made a good point, but i fear it was lost by the sheer amusement caused by the situation!

rlynnm · 01-06-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Carn

LOL!

Somehow I missed that the first time I read your post

heehee the post may be missable but the butt fuzz sure won't be!

Carno · 01-06-2006, 09:23 PM

Haha... I'll be the first to admit there is nothing attractive about bare man ass.

To be fair though, women have peach fuzz on their rear ends too. It may not be as much as on a dude's ass, but it's there.

One thing you never want to do is go near the crack though; that's where it turns from relatively innocent man butt fuzz to a dark and scary jungle!

rlynnm · 01-07-2006, 01:14 AM

I can imagine..or hell maybe I don't want to.

Do you know of any guy that actually shaves or waxes that off? hmmm

paddyjoe · 01-07-2006, 05:19 AM

Good to know that if flyman ever decides to move to the states, he'll now know where he'll be welcomed.

Fuzz and all!

rlynnm · 01-07-2006, 10:48 AM

Always paddy, always! hahaha

Carno · 01-07-2006, 10:54 AM

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Do you know of any guy that actually shaves or waxes that off? hmmm

Yes.

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rlynnm · 01-07-2006, 11:58 AM

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Yes.

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So is the area raw and burning post-shave?

Do you use shaving cream?

Please forgive my slight 'naivete'

Fly · 01-07-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by paddyjoe

Good to know that if flyman ever decides to move to the states, he'll now know where he'll be welcomed.

Fuzz and all!

fuck that!!!!!

i'm comin' to your house pal

Carno · 01-07-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rlynnm

So is the area raw and burning post-shave?

Do you use shaving cream?

Please forgive my slight 'naivete'

Hahahaha I didn't mean me!

My roommate shaves his junk bald, and his ass also, but he only uses a beard trimmer type thing, no razors.

I know other people that trim their asses also, but none that shave them with a razor. I guess I should have said trim and not shave.

rlynnm · 01-07-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carn

Hahahaha I didn't mean me!

My roommate shaves his junk bald, and his ass also, but he only uses a beard trimmer type thing, no razors.

I know other people that trim their asses also, but none that shave them with a razor. I guess I should have said trim and not shave.

hahaah okay...and I thought I'd actually be able to say 'Dude I know someone on the forum that's Mr. Clean underneath!!'

With a beard trimmer, doesn't that leave stubble of some sort though?

paddyjoe · 01-08-2006, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by flyman

fuck that!!!!!

i'm comin' to your house pal

just remember......

wax on........wax off........

Carno · 01-08-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rlynnm

hahaah okay...and I thought I'd actually be able to say 'Dude I know someone on the forum that's Mr. Clean underneath!!'

With a beard trimmer, doesn't that leave stubble of some sort though?

I'd think so, but I have no idea.. It's not like we talk about this sort of thing often

Actually, I trim my junk too, but I've never noticed it being really stubbly. It was itchy as hell the first time I ever did it, but not anymore. I don't have a hairy ass so I've never thought about trimming that...

maleficent · 01-08-2006, 08:59 AM

Ahem.... there already is a topic on the care and feeding of one's nether regions... Let's not make this topic into a subset of that please... Thank you...

On with talk of a full moon please

Fly · 01-08-2006, 09:21 AM

uses all his will too.......

not.

post.

picture.

rlynnm · 01-08-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

Ahem.... there already is a topic on the care and feeding of one's nether regions... Let's not make this topic into a subset of that please... Thank you...

On with talk of a full moon please

heehee sorry about that mal, we got a little carried away!

art of leaving · 01-08-2006, 12:14 PM

I think this goes along with the old mantra "there is a time and place for everything"

For example, if you use a knife to put some butter on toast its a perfectly innocent object, if you stab someone with this same knife, it then becomes a weapon and is no longer so innocent.

Therefore, I suppose if you are using your butt in a maleficent manner, as this guy was attempting to do, it is a problem, I guess. But if you're lounging on the beach and not pointing it at anyone in particular I suppose it is considered "okay", not that I'd want to see it personally.

On a side note, anytime I've ever been mooned it has been extremely hilarious and I do believe this woman needs to lighten up and have a good laugh, butts are funny, they are most likely flabby and yes, hairy. Laugh, its funny!

01-05-2006, 04:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Xazy People in masks cannot be trusted Location: NYC	Mooning in Maryland is now legal I can not find the article though I heard it on the news. There was a case in which a judge just ruled that a man who had mooned his neighbor is not indecent, since women can wear thongs at a beach. And we thus cannot discriminate against men. Yep, I think that ruling is messed up personally, then again I have seen a few thongs that I wished the person could get arrested for wearing.

01-05-2006, 03:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
PayUp DILLIGAF Location: AZ	I always thought that mooning was funny. Infact when I die I want to be burried face down so everyone can kiss my ass goodbye. __________________ Born to Lose.

01-05-2006, 04:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
skier Rawr! Location: Edmontania	What I really want to know is the story behind the story. Why was the argument heated? What caused the rivalry? How could a man be driven to moon a mother and daughter? __________________ "Asking a bomb squad if an old bomb is still "real" is not the best thing to do if you want to save it." - denim

01-05-2006, 04:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	more on the story You Can Pull Your Pants Down in Maryland! Ah America, where you're free to let your buttocks hang out in the breeze. A Montgomery County Circuit Court judge ruled Tuesday that, while not tasteful, mooning someone in Maryland is not illegal, according to The Washington Post. The decision acquitted a Germantown man who bared his buttocks during a fight with his neighbor, reversing the earlier guilty of indecent exposure verdict of a district court judge. "If exposure of half of the buttock constituted indecent exposure, any woman wearing a thong at the beach at Ocean City would be guilty," Judge John W. Debelius III said following the trial. Saying that the alleged butt-bearing was undeniably "disgusting" and "demeaning," Debelius said if the defendant had been on trial for "being a jerk" his ruling might have gone the other way. The defendant, Raymond Hugh McNealy, 44, allegedly yelled at neighbor Nanette Vonfeldt on June 7 and threatened to "blow up" her building as she and her 8-year-old daughter walked out of their apartment. "Then, for whatever reason, in full view of my daughter, he mooned us," Vonfeldt wrote in court papers. McNealy's attorneys said the two had been arguing for a while about disagreements over their homeowners association and McNealy wanted Vonfeldt kicked off the board. Montgomery District Court Judge Eugene Wolfe got the case first on Sept. 12 and ruled against the alleged butt-bearer — whose attorneys appealed the decision, saying indecent exposure in Maryland is a willful public exposing of "private parts," not buttocks. A $1,000 fine and up to three years in prison is the punishment for indecent exposure in Maryland. The indecent exposure law in the state is ambiguous, Montgomery County prosecutor Dan Barnett told The Washington Post. "In our minds, this was not a bathing suit scenario," Barnett told the Post. "This was a grown man exposing himself to an 8-year-old girl." The case of a female protester arrested in 1983 demonstrating outside the Supreme Court in nothing but a sign covering the front of her body was cited by the defense. "Indecent exposure" is limited to a person's genitals, the D.C. Court of Appeals later ruled in 1986. James Maxwell, one of McNealy's attorneys, told the Post the ruling should "bring comfort to all beachgoers and plumbers" in Maryland. __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

01-05-2006, 04:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
rlynnm Psycho Location: so cal	Fairness, what fairness? How come women's private parts can be shown in the media without sucha big hustle-bustle, yet a man's privates are so private they aren't exploited equally?! No justice I tell you. No justice. Let them all show their buns, so when we take our hands to cop a feel we won't be surprised by butt fuzz. __________________ The hardest thing is to be honest with yourself, especially if that means completely redefining the world you've come to know. Don't look too hard, I'm right in front of you.

01-05-2006, 05:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Because men are disgusting. __________________ http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

01-06-2006, 07:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
serlindsipity Psycho Location: Boulder Baby!	The judge made a good point, but i fear it was lost by the sheer amusement caused by the situation! __________________ My third eye is my camera's lens.

01-06-2006, 09:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Haha... I'll be the first to admit there is nothing attractive about bare man ass. To be fair though, women have peach fuzz on their rear ends too. It may not be as much as on a dude's ass, but it's there. One thing you never want to do is go near the crack though; that's where it turns from relatively innocent man butt fuzz to a dark and scary jungle! __________________ http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

01-07-2006, 01:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
rlynnm Psycho Location: so cal	I can imagine..or hell maybe I don't want to. Do you know of any guy that actually shaves or waxes that off? hmmm __________________ The hardest thing is to be honest with yourself, especially if that means completely redefining the world you've come to know. Don't look too hard, I'm right in front of you.

01-07-2006, 05:19 AM	#15 (permalink)
paddyjoe through charlatans phone Location: Northcoast	Good to know that if flyman ever decides to move to the states, he'll now know where he'll be welcomed. Fuzz and all!

01-07-2006, 10:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
rlynnm Psycho Location: so cal	Always paddy, always! hahaha __________________ The hardest thing is to be honest with yourself, especially if that means completely redefining the world you've come to know. Don't look too hard, I'm right in front of you.

01-08-2006, 08:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	Ahem.... there already is a topic on the care and feeding of one's nether regions... Let's not make this topic into a subset of that please... Thank you... On with talk of a full moon please __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

01-08-2006, 09:21 AM	#25 (permalink)
Fly see the links to my music? Location: Beautiful British Columbia	uses all his will too....... not. post. picture. __________________ BASTARD SterlingStudios

01-08-2006, 12:14 PM	#27 (permalink)
art of leaving Upright	I think this goes along with the old mantra "there is a time and place for everything" For example, if you use a knife to put some butter on toast its a perfectly innocent object, if you stab someone with this same knife, it then becomes a weapon and is no longer so innocent. Therefore, I suppose if you are using your butt in a maleficent manner, as this guy was attempting to do, it is a problem, I guess. But if you're lounging on the beach and not pointing it at anyone in particular I suppose it is considered "okay", not that I'd want to see it personally. On a side note, anytime I've ever been mooned it has been extremely hilarious and I do believe this woman needs to lighten up and have a good laugh, butts are funny, they are most likely flabby and yes, hairy. Laugh, its funny! __________________ "Sometimes it seems like we're all living in some kind of prison, and the crime is how much we all hate ourselves. It's good to get really dressed up once in a while and admit the truth -- that when you really look closely, people are so strange and so complicated that they're actually beautiful. Possibly even me."