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Old 11-02-2004, 06:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What's your secret for remembering passwords and logins?

My wife, my wife, my wife......

Bless her heart, she just can NOT remember all her logins and passwords. She can't remember ANY of them, for that matter. She is a very, very security-conscious person, and makes damned sure that she uses different login names and different passwords for each internet "presence." Usually, when she wants to show me something she found on the internet, it ends up with me falling asleep in the chair behind her while she frantically scrambles to remember her logins and passwords. Her e-mail inbox is overflowing with replies from various websites giving her a new password, which she promptly changes, and then promptly forgets again.

On the other hand, I'm very careless about security. I basically have three login names that I use everywhere, and three passwords that I rotate among the three logins. If I forget one, there's only a finite number of possibilities for me to try before I get it right.

Last night, I was trying to pay our Verizon bill over the phone like we always do when she excitedly told me she'd set it up on the internet so we can pay it that way. Right away, I got a little worried. Sure enough, after she triumphantly marched to the computer and went to the Verizon site, it asked for a login and password. When I saw her shoulders slump, I leaned back and took a nap. Eventually, they e-mailed her a new password (which she changed, of course), and we were able to pay the bill. I told her to write down the new password, but I think her security-sense prevents her from leaving a written trail of passwords for an intruder (or snooping in-law) to obtain.

What do the rest of you do? With an ever-increasing number of sites asking for logins and passwords, do you recycle the same ones in order to keep it simple, or do you go overboard with security (and how do you remember, if that's the case)?
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just use the same username and password,

Its fine imho unless you start telling people etc(obviously )
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have 3 passwords I use...one for bill paying,ebay, or anything that involves money in some way....one for message board logins and one for all my email accounts
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have the attention span of a fruitfly... and suffer from a bad case of CRS (Can't Remember Squat) The only accounts I'm very security conscious with is online banking and credit cards (and shame on me - -they're all the same account names and passwords) other accounts, like Salon, Slate and a few other places I go, I always use the same account name and password)
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah... same username and password works well... I keep 2 passwords though.. one covers high-security things, and the other for not so important things.
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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items like forums or basic registrations all get 1 of 3 passwords.

items like banking, CC, paypal, ebay, all get a random set of letters & numbers that for the most part I have memorized but still write them down on paper that I keep handy.

anything else gets a age old password i've had since like 5th grade for school computers.
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I tend to use the same passwords, sometimes with slight variation.

I also use Firefox at home, and that'll keep most usernames/passwords remembered
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The password I use most often is over 13 characters long, alpha-numeric. I've used it for years. It was the number on some card I used to use a lot a long time ago, and the number just stuck. I love it, I can tell any of my friends what my password is and there's no way any of them can remember it.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If your password is on this List of Common and Especially Bad Passwords (too long to quote inline here), you are well advised to consider creating a new one.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have three or four logins and two passwords. One for high-security, and one for other stuff.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:51 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i have variants of passwords and misspellings of favorite words... I have about 5 of them to cycle through.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:00 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I use Firefox that remembers all the passwords but I also use the same password for everything. Nobody, however, will ever get that code.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have about five or six passwords that I use. I rotate them liberally between my various accounts.

As for usernames... I have only one or two (and a couple variations, i.e. Charlatan001 if Charlatan is taken).
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I used to use a different one for all my internet accounts but that became way too unwieldy so now I have just two. I use a phone # I had when I was in high school (a LONG time ago!) and a strange/funnny name I made up. Keeps it easy to remember.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Quite often I will use the a word that describes a recent event in my life, and then add to it a special character (usually the same one) and a combo of numbers.

IE:

Just before or just after vacation my password might be: *Bea(h123
or if I was to have a birthday it might be: *0LdMan789

Since I have to change my access pwd at work every 14 days this is very handy (I never used either of those btw.

I use extremely complex passwords for my banking access, but it is typically still based on a real word, but changed enough that a dictionary cracker could not break it. Common english words are the first ones cracked. For example, take a word like "deliveryboy" and add a few numbers and punctuation marks and you get: D3liv3r7b0799

Finally when it comes to passwords that use very rarely go ahead and write them down, but for crissakes do not write down, "Bankpassword=D3liv3r7b0799" and carry it around in your wallet. Wrtie down the password BY ITSELF and store it someplace innocuous like on the back of a recipie card in the kitchen.

Well that's my two cents. later.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:07 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I use phrases that have very VERY little to do with the username/password being remembered.

For example, one of the phrases is "Sailor Man".

That might lead a cracker to start working on Popeye, OliveOil or various permutations.

Nothing could be farther from the true password.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:10 AM   #18 (permalink)
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If your password is on this List of Common and Especially Bad Passwords (too long to quote inline here), you are well advised to consider creating a new one.
Oh no! "willow" is on that list. But, fortunately, "willow4evr" isn't. Neither is "alyson", or "hannigan".


Get real. Do you really think that I'm that pathetic?
Never mind.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:20 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Oh no! "willow" is on that list. But, fortunately, "willow4evr" isn't. Neither is "alyson", or "hannigan".


Get real. Do you really think that I'm that pathetic?
Never mind.
*tries to log in as Bill, fails*
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:32 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Keep a database of all your login/passes and what they go to. MS Access is pretty handy for small stuff like that. That's also how I keep up with people's emails, instead of entering a bunch of crap into address books every time I keep them in a seperate db. Of course you'd want to secure it some kind of way.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't have any trouble remembering them. But I also remember all of my credit card numbers and most of the phone numbers I've ever had.

I just can't remember the ride to work today or whether or not there is any food in the fridge.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:42 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I have a selection of vintage alcohol bottles on a shelf in my room. Corresponding right to left, they match my favorites list from top to bottom, and each one has an "interesting memory" that brings up what the password is.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I suffer from CRS too .Heh

So it's 2 or 3 username and passwords. Like most people I guess. Since I don't do internet banking, or deal with money online, that's okay.

But I might have to change if money comes into play.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:13 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I've got a convention I used for most stuff. There are about a dozen work passwords I have to remember, because I have no control over them.. they change I keep up.

For everything I do control I keep a couple words and number sets I rotate through.
Depending on how important the account I'm trying to use, I use words and numbers.

For example:
"username"
"password"
Same username and password I'd generally use, no numbers on the password.
if it's got stricter rules, or needs to be more secure:
"Username"
"password0000"
Now I've capitalized the first letter in the username, different than a low sec account, and I've added one of the two sets of numbers I always add.
If it's a really strict account, with capitals, and special characters required, I usually end up with:
"Username1111*"
"Password00001111*"
That will generally meet the most strict ID and Pass rules out there. Both the ID and Password are now alphanumeric, have capitals and lowercase, and have at least one special character, and are rather long too boot.

Even when I compeltely forget what I'm supposed to be typing in, I can usually get in, in less than 3 tries, because as long as I stuck to my convention, and I have a reasonable idea of what the username is, I'll get it.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:18 AM   #25 (permalink)
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i have a bah-zillion passwords. each is very unique.
not sure how, but i do remember them all.
then again, i know my 16 digit credit card # by heart, my hubby's & my own SSN, all 3 of our license plate #s, dozens of phone#s, snail addys, email addys, birthdays, etc.

just call me rain woman, i guess.

but just to be sure, i have all of my passwords written down in one place.
old skool stylee, pen & paper.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:19 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Wait, everyone who posted on this thread ( including me ) is basically telling the world some information about their passwords.

Now that can't be good password practise, right?
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:27 AM   #27 (permalink)
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not unless you know my warped mind enuff to guess one of my 3...and that would be damned near impossible for most people lol
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:42 AM   #28 (permalink)
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not unless you know my warped mind enuff to guess one of my 3...and that would be damned near impossible for most people lol
Hmm, I'll try. One of them got something to do with BDSM?
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:52 AM   #29 (permalink)
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nope...not even close hehehehe
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:20 AM   #30 (permalink)
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use a common form to create a password, that only you know..

nice examples of this would be to take a word, then take every third letter and replace it with the number that corresponds to the letter in the alphabet..

e.g.: tfprocks = tf16ro3ks <-- now that password looks messed up

granted, since I mentioned this here, I would recommend using a different letter rather than the 3rd , but this way if you forget, it is easy to remember it, since then you can have some common passwords, that will meet some of the most strict guidelines.

although, if you are really paranoid, you could put a number at the beginning and add that number to the number of each letter so it appears to shift everything *shrugs*..

also, if your access file is really secure, that is a decent way for the very forgetful, just don't store it in "Shared Documents"
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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information that people could steal and use against me... Cept maybe my Cheers avatar!
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:54 AM   #32 (permalink)
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My computer remembers all mine. And then rest that don't have to do with a computer are the same.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:05 PM   #33 (permalink)
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nope...not even close hehehehe

I'd go with Barry Manilow or Neil Diamond song
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:16 PM   #34 (permalink)
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hehehehe nope....see there ARE things about me some people dont know ahahahaha
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:33 PM   #35 (permalink)
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One pass word for all my internet accounts. I don't care and I'm lazy, that's my secret
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:03 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I use my own system for passwords.
I have the same username for everything (Anxst or a variation thereof).

I then look at what site I'm making a password for. What odd thing does it make me think of?

I then use that phrase in sentence, and write the sentence down.

Then I translate that sentence into Irish Gaelic. Please note Irish Gaelic will pretty much always twist the word order around from English. A lot.

Take the third or fifth word of the sentence, whichever is longer. Change the vowels into numbers (I have my own system for this).

There's your password, as well as a coded system for paper storage. And I dare someone to break that sucker.
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:12 PM   #37 (permalink)
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at my work, i have about 6 different passwords for things I use all the time. I'd say that, in total, I have about 12 different passwords for everyday stuff that I rotate whenever I have to change one due to time limits.
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:24 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'm like many that use variations of the same username and password.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:13 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I only have two different user names.. and I use the same password for everything. It's just easier that way.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:16 PM   #40 (permalink)
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i have for the most part 2 passwords but occasionally youll find a site that wants 6+ character pass' (mines 5) and ill make variations. Most logins i have are one of 4 things as well so i do ok for the most part
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