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Meridae'n 12-10-2003 08:17 PM

Is it just me? #2
 
Here's another one for youse... Purely to tie up another disagreement I had not long ago.

Another friend of mine is 34 and has 3 boys, oldest being 9. She says that if they wake up at night she goes and tends to them without first getting dressed. She also says that they come into the bathroom when she has a shower, and she doesn't mind, saying that their her kids, why should she worry about them seeing her naked.

This one is a little less suspect than the first instance, but I'm not sure it's that good for a boy as young as 9 seeing his mother naked.

Any thoughts? Purely out of curiosity as I was shot down in this argument...

The_Dude 12-10-2003 08:24 PM

yeah, u got some weird friends dude ;).

i really dont think that allowing your kids to see u nude all the time like that is very cool.

bundy 12-10-2003 08:40 PM

theres nothing really all that suss with that... its certainly less suss than your last question.
mind you, i bet she starts covering up when he has friends sleeping over...

ebeye 12-10-2003 08:48 PM

Nudity isn't a bad thing. Why should we start teaching that we have to be covered in our own home? Now I would cover up when my children have friends over because I don't govern their lives, but I am not going to raise my children thinking that the human body is something dirty.

Jonsgirl 12-10-2003 09:06 PM

I don't really see a problem with this one. Her oldest kid is 9 so he probably still thinks that all girls have cooties and isn't going to be traumatized by seeing her naked at this point. I do hope she starts wearing at least a little bit before he gets too much older. And the shower ting isn't bad at all, IMO. There's at least a door or a curtain that seperates them. I assume she doesn't let them shower with her?

CS733t 12-10-2003 09:10 PM

Ya, that's not cool. I think the kids could have issues later in life.

Meridae'n 12-10-2003 10:07 PM

IMO women don't realise what goes on in boys heads around that time. I told her it's her choice, and I guess she's been doing it their whole lives so it's no big deal. But very soon she's gunna have to change her perception a bit I reckon...

Cycler 12-10-2003 10:19 PM

Not as bad as the first but yeah before too long have gain some modesty.

StormBerlin 12-10-2003 10:27 PM

According to Freud... boys between six and nine start to become sexually attracted to their mothers. If a father figure is present, the child starts to become jealous. This could lead to some problems later in life. I for one think Freud is a genius, so my advice is for her be careful.

Evil Milkman 12-10-2003 11:13 PM

Actually, I think that if the young boy gets jealous at his father when he is young, BUT resloves the conflict with his father through whatever means the boy and father will, no fixation will occur and will leave the boy with no future problems. I think it's called an Oedipus Complex. I may be entirely wrong, easy.

Averett 12-11-2003 04:37 AM

You can teach your children that the naked human body is a beautiful thing, and that there is nothing wrong with nudity without being naked around them 24/7...

lurkette 12-11-2003 06:20 AM

I don't think this one is so bad - just seeing your mother naked is a lot less weird than climbing into bed with your naked parents at age 26. I think it's great if kids grow up not being ashamed or embarassed about the human body.

wannabenakid247 12-11-2003 06:24 AM

Yeah right on Lurkette i totally agree with you! :)

sailor 12-11-2003 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bundy
theres nothing really all that suss with that... its certainly less suss than your last question.
mind you, i bet she starts covering up when he has friends sleeping over...

Yeah, this one isnt bad. I think its a good thing that they accept nudity. Maybe once the kids get a little older they should stop, but for now, theres nothing wrong with it.

skysooner 12-11-2003 06:58 AM

Our oldest is 7 (a boy), and he sees my wife naked on occasion. It isn't something she flaunts, but when you have kids this young, you want to be available immediately if an emergency occurs, so it isn't always possible to lock the door during showers, etc. It used to be more frequent until he started acting strangely around her (i.e. looking more intently), so we scaled it back a bunch. The kids see me naked in the shower, but there has never been any issue with them seeming uncomfortable.

absorbentishe 12-11-2003 07:08 AM

My kids have walked in on my wife, or I while we're in the bathroom, or even our bedroom while getting dressed, no big deal. Walking in on us while doing the horizontal bop, is very bad, breaks the mood completely, and you have to explain what's going on.

LewisCouch 12-11-2003 07:43 AM

Seems harmless and innocent enough. Just hope it doesn't progress to the level that a single woman I knew had reached. She used to shower and sleep with her two boys, the oldest was twelve.

raeanna74 12-11-2003 08:15 AM

I wouldn't see a problem with it really as long as it isn't an everyday consistant thing. Much older and she probably should be a little more careful. My daughter who is 3 is starting to ask questions and stare sometimes if hubby walks around nude. We've started to be more careful since she could talk. He wears undies at least around the house. I do too. She still nurses on occaision so breasts aren't an issue. I won't ever worry about her seeing me naked as we are the same gender. We don't freak out if she walks in on hubby just out of the shower or on the toilet. We are teaching her that people like to be alone and have quiet when they are using the toilet just because it's nice to have privacy then. I want her to be comfortable in her skin but I also want her to respect others. When other people come over I teach her that she needs to at least wear panties and a shirt. I often let her run around naked when it's just us at home because she like other babies likes being clothing free.

Prince 12-11-2003 08:31 AM

I still went to the sauna each Saturday with my parents at age 10. Not older than that, mind you. I didn't think it was a big deal, and neither did they, but I do come from a different culture, so...it's different strokes for different folks, I guess.

jbrooks544 12-11-2003 10:06 AM

Why would seeing one's mother naked be a problem? I can't believe how uptight people are. I fail to understand what the "prolem" is. Nakedness only becomes a weird issue when people are so prudish that they make a big deal about it. If being naked around your family is normal and not artificially turned into a shamefest then there really isn't anything wrong with it.

basmoq 12-11-2003 03:52 PM

I'm a guy, and although I find nothing wrong with female nudity, she is going to have to change her ways BEFORE he hits puberty, or it may effect him in a bad way. Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

Meridae'n 12-11-2003 08:59 PM

I'll take it, I reckon your right. While i don't have any problem with what she's doing, it's gunna have to change.

Not being a prude, it's just the way shit is.

analog 12-11-2003 11:33 PM

People are fuckin weird with their kids.

There's a bit of a difference between teaching your kids that the human body is beautiful, and walking around naked in front of them all the time.

I repeat. People are fuckin weird with their kids. That is all.

Reese 12-12-2003 02:29 AM

If the kids are indifferent about her nudity I don't see a problem. When the kid starts getting embarassed, or looking more than normal, then it should stop.

tritium 12-12-2003 03:42 AM

Very strange ... very very strange. Don't know what else to say.

sadatx 12-12-2003 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StormBerlin
According to Freud... boys between six and nine start to become sexually attracted to their mothers. If a father figure is present, the child starts to become jealous. This could lead to some problems later in life.
Yep. It deffinitely sounds like an oedipal situation.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Milkman
Actually, I think that if the young boy gets jealous at his father when he is young, BUT resloves the conflict with his father through whatever means the boy and father will, no fixation will occur and will leave the boy with no future problems. I think it's called an Oedipus Complex. I may be entirely wrong, easy.

Okay, here's the cliff's notes version of the oedipus complex: Boy sees mother as loving, nuturing and boy loves mother back. Boy sees mother naked, is attracted to mother (only woman he knows really). Boy sees father naked. Sees father has a bigger ding-a-ling. Sees father get attetion from mother.

Boy is threatened by father. Boy wants father dead so he can have mother all to hims self. But boy loves father too. Now boy feels guilty because of his thoughts. This GUILT is the main problem of the Oedipus complex and, according to Freud, what causes psychological problems in many cases in men.


So, what was the question again? :)


I understand that some might think that it's no big deal. But I think it could be, especially if the children thoguht this went on everywhere. It might cause problems for them in school or camp or whatever.

I'm all for kids learning not to be ashamed of their own bodies or other people's naked bodies. But at the same time they need to realize that people generally don't walk around naked in front of their kids. Or maybe they do. Guess I don't really know. I've never heard of it.


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