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Old 04-25-2003, 04:59 AM   #41 (permalink)
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A woman could actually hold you down!?
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Old 04-25-2003, 05:04 AM   #42 (permalink)
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To poise another question: Has a woman ever been convicted of this rape?
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Old 04-25-2003, 05:50 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Definitely. This was *kinda* touched on in Crichton's book that became a movie with Demi Moore and Michael Douglas (I forget the name).
I was going to mention this. Althoug the story deals more with the fallout from Demi Moore's character turning around and calling the incident sexual harassment and rape because it didn't go the way SHE wanted it to, the actual incident could, should, and nowadays would be considered her "raping" him. He specifically said no several times, and had to physically fight her off. Granted, then he got so turned on that he almost consensually had sex with her, but came to his senses at the last minute and got out of there.

It's a damn good thing there was a witness nearby and the answering machine was running, or whatever. Most men wouldn't get so lucky and would lose that job or worse.

IMHO, if BOTH partners are not 100% willing participants, it's rape. If actual or threatened physical or psychological coercion is used by either party, it can be considered rape. In the military, under the UCMJ, penetration must occur in some form, which might make it trickier to prosecute a female-on-male rape, but most military guys probably wouldn't report something like that anyway.

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Old 04-25-2003, 06:36 AM   #44 (permalink)
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You wimp!!

A woman could actually hold you down!?
We're not talking about a woman here... we're talking about "Big Bertha", the 400-pound all muscle monster.

By the way; anyone seen the movie "40 Days and 40 Nights"? At the end, the guy is taken by his ex-girlfriend... *that* was definitely a rape. Even worse, *he* gets blamed for it, and has to say sorry to his sweetheart. I wonder what moron wrote that story...
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Old 04-25-2003, 07:17 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Remember, kids... rape isn't about sex, it's about *power*.
Right. This is what I was thinking about while going through the other posts. Rape takes sex out of the picture. A rapist may say they're doing it for sex, but it's about power. I have power over you, and I'm going to make you do something you don't want to.

Could a woman rape a man? By the terms above, yes. It has little to do with your dick. If a woman is trying to exert power over a man in this fashion, she can just as easily incapacitate him in some way and sodimize him, never touching his dick. That's rape.
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Old 04-25-2003, 11:34 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Definitely could happen, as mentioned in others replies.

-Strap-on
-Power trip
-Sodomy
-Molestation

All forms of rape.
There was a movie, can't remember the name in which a man was tied to a bed. (Married man) and aroused by a woman with some STD, which he was unaware of at the time. Then she engaged in intercourse with him. Perfect example of rape by a woman.
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Old 04-25-2003, 11:49 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Old 04-25-2003, 12:52 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I believe it can happen. Heck, watch 40 days and 40 nights. Hidious example, I know, but the guy wasn't totally there, and he didn't want to sleep with the girl, and she screws him.
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Old 04-25-2003, 12:54 PM   #49 (permalink)
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The assumption that rape = physically forced sex is erroneous.

Rape can include the victim being asleep, drunk, non-physically coerced, etc. It's a nice broad vague definition. But the courts support it. If a girl claims to have been raped, and can provide proof of sexual intercourse, then it's almost by definition rape.

That being said, then the corrollary must be true.

However, since the wonderful two-way street of gender works the way it does, few males will admit (to themselves or others) that they were raped. Therfore, they weren't.
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Old 04-25-2003, 02:08 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Old 04-25-2003, 07:09 PM   #51 (permalink)
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If I wanted it, then I'd be hard, and it wouldn't be rape. If I didn't want it, then I wouldn't be hard, and she couldn't fuck me.
Then lets give you a little oral, a little alcohol, and shove a broom stick up your ass when you're passed out and post the pics in Off The Wayside. If your dick is hard I will know you wanted it because otherwise doing what I did would be wrong, right?

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Old 04-25-2003, 08:50 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Man in my days I have never heard of weirder shit. Women raping men... Many of you seem to take it upon yourself and say Yes....subconsciously, psychologically and that other bullcrap, give it a rest. Sex(intercourse) is what it is. If I don't hear my woman complain or begging me to stop then that is not rape, if I don't ask my woman to stop fucking me (why would I?) then that is not rape. Maybe this applies to unmatured little boys who I am sure find themselves in awkward positions with women but when there is a full grown man and whether or not he aware or unaware it is not rape. If the man awoke to the fucking Miss April of the Playboy calendar I guarantee you he will not complain but if he awoke to a fat/too skinny, old/hairy butt-ugly woman (it's all according to preference, men are picky yes) he would feel violated and call that rape. My point was made somewhere in there make what you want out of it.
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Old 04-25-2003, 09:57 PM   #53 (permalink)
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After a night of heavy drinking between me, my girlfriend at the time and a close friend of hers, I awoke to my girls close friend giving me a bj then I passed back out, then I woke to her on top of me but I couldn’t move and passed out again. The next morning I woke up without my pants on, I remembered bits and pieces but never said anything until a year later when another buddy said this girl did the same thing to him.
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:07 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Then lets give you a little oral, a little alcohol, and shove a broom stick up your ass when you're passed out and post the pics in Off The Wayside. If your dick is hard I will know you wanted it because otherwise doing what I did would be wrong, right?
sounds kinky
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:55 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Raping of a man can ONLY be done if YOUR DICK IS STIFF!
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Old 04-26-2003, 01:09 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I wonder what moron wrote that story...
Must be some "liberated" feminazi...
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Old 04-26-2003, 01:45 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Raping of a man can ONLY be done if YOUR DICK IS STIFF!
yeah, sure...

- scenario 1: man is raped with a strap-on
- scenario 2: man is forced into oral sex
- scenario 3: man's dick is not stiff, but the woman bangs him anyway (it's about *power*, remember?)

I could come up with many more...
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Old 04-26-2003, 05:25 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Of course it's possible.

Can a man be touched sexually when he doesn't want to be?

I must say anyone debating the other side of this is not very well informed, or denying simple facts.
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Old 05-31-2003, 12:03 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I was raped by my girlfriend, or I guess you could call it that, while I was sleeping, she got on top of me and started having sex with me, but I was asleep, she woke me up after a couple minutes she said, and it was a very good surprise, but I guess you could call all that while I was sleep, rape.
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Old 05-31-2003, 12:30 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Definitely possible. I'm pretty sure it's not as common as the other way around - the genetic wiring just isn't there in females to create the same frequency. But it's definitely possible and does happen.
I'll agree with SecretMethod here..
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Old 05-31-2003, 05:04 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 05-31-2003, 08:38 AM   #62 (permalink)
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It is possible, but not as likley
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Old 05-31-2003, 08:41 AM   #63 (permalink)
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If it is rape for me to not stop having sex with a girl when she clearly tells me too...regardless of whether or not she is aroused, then it is rape for a woman to not stop having sex with a man, even though he clearly tells her to stop.

The guy can be aroused, and still not want to sleep with someone (I.e. a married man being seduced by a supermodel).
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Old 05-31-2003, 09:13 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Yes!...It is possible...I am living proof,...and I will not press charges!...For the female rapists in hiding,..don't not fear of your guilt.Come on back and get some more.
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Old 05-31-2003, 12:18 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Saying that a man cannot be raped is like saying a wife cannot be raped by her husband. Both happen but no body want to give the victim crediblity. Well if he can get it up he wanted it. Well hey there are stimulations a person can perform on a man to get him hard even if he isnt into it. And if you read any books on sexuality, you will learn very fast that a man has no control over his dick getting hard, its all a simulation type of reaction weather it be visual or pyshical (sp). Just that its not really reported...Besides how do you think a mn would be treated if he really did come forward to something like this? He would be a laughing stock.

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Old 05-31-2003, 03:19 PM   #66 (permalink)
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rape as in the girl using his cock, against his own will? i don't think that can happen. if he doesn't enjoy it, it won't get hard, and then she's "screwed." BUT, if you're talking up the bunghole, yes, thats possible.
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Old 05-31-2003, 11:18 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Its possible but not too plausible. However rare, it does happen. Guys can be pressured, too.
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Old 05-31-2003, 11:48 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Old 06-01-2003, 12:09 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Old 06-01-2003, 02:55 AM   #70 (permalink)
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yeah... erections are completely random... most cases of a person being hung reported that they were visibly aroused (maybe only physically) and many actually ejaculated after the hanging... So, a man can probably react the same was with fear to a woman...
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Old 06-01-2003, 06:32 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Its entirely possible, but, like many others have already said, will probably go unreported for obvious reasons.
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Old 06-01-2003, 07:58 AM   #72 (permalink)
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If we use the same rules that the courts have been applying to rape of women a man could be aroused by a situation but not want to consummate it or could even be in the act of consummating it and decide not to stop. Any additional stimulation by the female could be considered rape.
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Old 06-01-2003, 11:54 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Remember, kids... rape isn't about sex, it's about *power*.
*dingdingdingding* male, female, animal, vegetable, doesn't matter.
Organic or mechanical, doesn't matter either.
Consensual? That's what matters. It's an excessive, improper expression of dominance. Whether a particular incident can be considered "Rape" or "Assault" or "Misconduct" depends on the laws governing the place where it happened.

Considering that this society is considered by many to be greatly mysogynistic, one might expect quite a few women trying to "reverse roles" and "take matters into their own hands".
At the same time, how many men are honestly strong enough to stand up for themselves after the fact and be able to admit that something like this happened to them? Heck, most of us don't even want to say what health problems we've had. We as "men" want to give the impression that we are always "in control".

_Disclosure_ is perhaps the most detailed, best known story on this subject. Not only did she misuse him, she tried to say that he had misused her, thus really screwing with his life.
Last year there was also an episode of "Law & Order" in which three women were accused of raping a male stripper.

For those who want to get more graphic or want something to perhaps chuckle at, http://tinyurl.com/d71a (nsfw)
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Old 06-01-2003, 12:39 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I doubt that's possible.

Male hormones are stronger than female hormones. I know most woman can do without masturbation for weeks, but with men i highly doubt they aren't spanking the monkey in less than a week, generally speaking. I don't think women got the urge to rape a guy.

But i remember reading a story about a nannie forced a kid to make em look at their peepee's but that doesn't come anywhere close to rape anyways.
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Old 06-01-2003, 05:42 PM   #75 (permalink)
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True story, happened to me. No shit.

Around 16, drunk at my best girl friends house. she rapped me.

It didn't suck although I was too damn drunk to do anything about it.

A few years later we did it for real. That was much better. It also happend to be the first time I fucked a pregnant girl...

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Old 06-01-2003, 07:41 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Yes... and anyone who 'fantasizes' about being raped... keep it that way...
Rape is a mind fuck to anyone who has experienced it... while the act is physical and typically violent... what happens to the mind and spirit is nothing to 'fantasize' about....
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Old 06-01-2003, 09:08 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Is it still rape if the man ejaculates? I can see how an argument can be made that a penis can be forcefully made to be erect, heck, you can even make the man take some viagra, so that his penis will be hard, but if a guy isn't into it I don't see how he's going to ejaculate. I mean don't they say that sex is like 90% mental stimulation?
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Old 06-01-2003, 09:52 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Old 06-02-2003, 02:02 AM   #79 (permalink)
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At gun point, yeh. Just how she'd get him to bone under such circumstances eludes me though...

Or she could be a Latvian weightlifting champ with a dildo and an anal fetish.

Seriously though, it can and has happened. It's been on the British news years back and I once came across it in the KaZaa 'My Shared Folder' on some college pc...

It was more of a "lie there and let me ride you!" kinda thing, but once again, the boner mystery come back into play.

If a guy is truly, against-his-will raped, is it possible to get boned. Furthermore, is it possible for the rapist to get any pleasure from a flaccid dick?

Sorry, but this is baffling.

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Old 06-02-2003, 10:16 AM   #80 (permalink)
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I don't get why people focus their argument on whether or not a guy is aroused during the act.

Granted, males are generally stronger than females, so a guy could feasibly avoid rape through sheer physical strength, but what about teenage boys or guys dealing with a notably stronger woman or that are just weaker? What about guys who are drugged or taken advantage of while passed out from booze or whatever? What about being threatened with a weapon?

Sure, the guy could remain completely unaroused, but some women prefer friction to actual penetration, so if a woman somehow incapacitated me and used my body for her pleasure without my consent, it wouldn't matter if I was hard or not. What would matter is that I was used against my will by another for pleasure. That, people, is rape. If I incapacitated a girl and came on her, even if no penetration was involved, it could still be considered rape. Unfortunately, us guys tend to be very focused on our dicks and its use for penetration, which is in itself an act of power, so I guess I can understand why some guys make these strange arguments on this thread.

As for reporting it, I agree that most guys would be ashamed to do it, since it all goes back to who has control and who doesn't. Also, we live in a culture that assumes all guys want sex all the time; that we're just waiting with our hand on our zipper to just pull out and go at it, so obviously any guy is going to have a hard time admitting he was raped, meaning that he didn't actually WANT to have sex. However, I'm sure that women raping men is more common than we think, although nowhere near what guys do to women.
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