dvorak

I don't know what ya'll think of drugs, but I like 'em.

Anyone who cares probably knows of the myriad resources online (erowid), but I would like to hear what my fellow TFP'ers have to say about the topic.

What are your current (and past) favorites? How often do you use them? What do you avoid? Any memorable experiences?

Personally, I don't like uppers. Opiates are awesome, but anything stronger than Vicodin is hard to get.

I've dropped acid ONCE, and with the help of some Xanax I avoided what I felt was an inevitable anxiety attack. It was a great experience... If you have what it takes to analyze your experience and do more than trip out on the walls melting around you, then I think LSD can be a pretty useful drug.

What are your thoughts?

TaLoN

i have done weed (don't consider it a drug), dxm, opium, and shrooms. currently i just smoke marijuana every now and then. i will never touch "hard drugs" such as coke, heroin, or XTC because i don't like how addictive/harmful they are.

yes drugs can be fun and teach you alot, but im against using them on a regular basis. it is too easy to mess up your life.

Plummie

Although I don't condone the use of recreational drugs, I myself have tried several throughout my wild teenage years. I see it as a learning experience, but there are risks involved and many people don't feel the experience is worth taking the risk. I especially feel this way about heroin, LSD, cocaine, and speed.

Nowadays I just smoke the peace pipe and drink good wine. That keeps me happy.

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dvorak

I smoked pot a few times in high school, but it always gave me the shakes. Last time I smoked it I was twitching all over, and man it was uncomfortable. My buddies said, "just relax, man!" but when I relaxed I fell asleep.. and dreamed of twitching!

I wonder if it's related to my Asthma, or low blood sugar... ?

gov135

I haven't even touched pot in a few years now.

But back in the day, a little coke before the big party, some X once in a great while.

But the favorite: opium. Always opium. You can think on the stuff and it gets you higher (lower) than pot. And you can pick from several enticing colors. Oh, sometimes I miss the college life. But now I smell better and I have a job and my eyes look normal and I don't shake...

Now if I could buck the darn cigarette thing - now theres a drug.

Lebell

It's your life to fuck up as you choose.

I have a friend in his 50's who's smoked weed all his adult life. He told me that the thing he regrets most about it is that is sapped all his ambition.

I have a friend in his 30's doing the same. I see him and there's no ambition.

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Lest you think I'm preaching at you, I'm not. I don't care if you flush your life down the toilet. But I do think you should be aware that that is what you are doing when you make that choice.

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degrawj

oh god..... did you eat all ths acid?

that's right! music!!!

dvorak

Labell - I hear what you're saying, and I agree with you. I started this thread as a place for people to talk intelligently about drugs and what they can do for us.

I'm only 21, but I've seen a lot of smart, ambitious people turned into zombies by pot. "It's more harmful than we all thought." Luckily most of my friends have found a way out of their ruts.

And me? I use drugs intermittantly, and I've never had a problem with substance addiction. I don't know if I'm lucky or just stronger-willed... or if my time is yet to come.

Unknown Poster

I've experimented with a lot of stuff when I was younger weed, all sorts of pills, coke, ecstasy, acid, shrooms. I had fun with it for a while and never made it a habit.

Now all I do is beer(maybe a shot of Curevo every now and then).

I don't think it is a big deal if you do it recreationally. Like someone mentioned, doing a toot before a party or something. When you start planning you life around the drugs, you got a problem.

sixate

I never have or will use drugs. They are good for nothing as far as I'm concerned. I've seen plenty of friends destroy their lives with that shit. I won't do the same.

World's King

I was a speed and cocain freak for many, many years...

I quit and it was the best thing I ever did. Now, I speak to young kids in schoos with a local group about the dangers of drugs...

I still drink like a fish, though.

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snowy

only marijuana for me...my friend always wanted me to try ecstacy but my mother's bipolar and i'm already clinically depressed...that's a button i don't want to push.

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Kabsnow

isn't it...

every time you smoke weed, you can never be AS sexually pleasured again?

yournamehere

Been there, done that, moved on.
I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy.

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BBtB

*Warning rant*


It all depends on what you do and how you do it. For 95% of people there is no real use for drugs. But while we are getting rid of useless things we also need to get rid of Alchol,tobacco, anything fattening,anything caffinated,anything with refined sugar in it and hundred other things that are consumed alone. Thats not even including unneeded technology such as cell phones and cars. The point is we could live without any of those but we choose not to. Now most of this applys to all drugs but because I am less personal experince in things other then pot and alcohol I am going to concentrate on them. The thing is not everyone who smokes is a "stoner" and not every stoner is unproductive. I have met many many people who smoke weed in my day. Very few of them fit in the sterotypes. Which is to say sure some of them do. The listless never wants to do anything lazy bum. But I have also met just as many (if not more) who are productive members of society and are holding down good jobs and rasing familys and what not. They are not all depressed and sad either which is another sterotype. Many of them are just as outgoing and active as anyone else. Often more so. And if you have never done drugs and don't want to then fine. But don't tell me I am wasting my life becasue you don't know shit. All you know is what your goverment tells you which is all lies. And you know these stories that people swap about people wasting their lives. People do waste their lives. Some happen to be on drugs others never touch the stuff and waste their lives. What you don't hear about is the productive active member of society who sometimes goes home and on the weekends or what not smokes/drinks. Then goes the work and raises his family. When is the last time you heard that story? It does exist (in fact really its more common) but no one wants to hear that story so they don't tell it.

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...i have to agree with sixate...

But i Looooove red wine

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doobie here,doobie there, no worries

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dvorak

BBtB - Right on. Tons of people use drugs and are still productive. It's a matter of self control.

If you can't handle it, don't do it. Just like anything else.

TaLoN

if you have a weak mind, drugs will screw you. if you are highly intelligent, then they are a good tool to further develop thoughts and awareness.

Pack

Tried lots of stuff, hell I think it's worth trying as long as you don't make it a habit.. Now I mostly use cannabis and shrooms. And alcohol even though I know it's one of the most addictrive and mentally as well as physically harmfull drugs there is. But alcohol is the only socially acceptible drug for some reason, so who am i to turn it down? I prefer cannabis though..

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mykockle

just pot for me thanks... but I don't touch it anymore coz i started feeling a lot dumber. After about 2 weeks off it though i felt a lot more like my regular self.

splck

agree 100% TaLoN. I smoke pot and drink alcohol while having a decent, happy life. The trick is to use them wisly and never abuse.

BBtB

Aye, and that is sorta the point. I am not going to argue that in the short term pots make you forgetfull and a little stupid. But that is only while high. I havn't smoked in 3 days and I am fine.

dvorak

TaLoN -
I agree. I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but ... well, you know. The changes that I underwent while on acid were incredible. It was like my mind literally opened up, and I could think about things that were inconceivable without the drug. I could go on and on about how amazing an experience it was (which would be VERY different from describing how amazing a night on Ecstasy might feel).

I can't imagine what goes through a dull mind on acid. What a waste.

deKlined

i've done pot quite a few times, there was a time last year where i was smoking every weekend.. but i stopped doing that before it too dangerous..

and what TaLoN said about intelligence, sounds pretty true. Pot makes me so creative for the following few days after taking it, but also makes me feel 'forgetful, a little stupid', like what BBtB said, for a few days afterwards. getting stoned & watching winamp AVS shows you just how creative you are. your mind will turn the patterns into stuff, like a tunnel, that you;re traveling through.. dunno eh hard to explain.

i've also done nitrous, but that's hardly a drug (it's legal here i think)

scarebearjinx

hell, i smoke weed and enjoy myself; opium every now and then as well. i've never done anything stupid or regreting while i was smoking and it keeps my mind from running over time.

i've done shrooms once and i've done adderal with some friends. i haven't had much and can't really make to good a decision. but i have to say, of the few i have done, i like weed and shrooms. i'm more for the natural, mother nature grown things, i trust them better. there are a couple of synthetics i would like to try, but nothing major or hardcore. i'd get my ass beat and so would any of my friends if they tried it.

Acoustica

The only drugs that I have used besides alcohol are shrooms and X. I think that both were enlightening experiences that I will cherish forever, actually. The times that I have used these drugs I made memories with friends that I will never forget. However, there are downsides to these drugs. I used shrooms only twice, so I'm sure that it's not them. I took X approximately 8-12 times. Since then I've received such a massive restraint on my memory. It's weird. Some things I remember perfectly and clearly like the back of my hand. However, simple things I cannot seem to recall. For example, sometimes it will take me a good 5 minutes to recall just what happened yesterday. Or something that happened at work will have vanished from my memory. I've concluded that it was X that has put this damage to my memory, and will therefore never touch the stuff again. Although they created some wonderful times for me. It sux!

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i8one2

been there, done it, been to jail, lost everything...and wasted 10 years out of life to regain a sense of self. Oh, please continue and live the life I did. And have fun! I'll never go back.

Sober 9 years May 23 of this year

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Macheath

All I do is alcohol and the occasional cuban cigar. Good red wine, single malts and German beers without the preservative shit.

I think its important to know about drugs, even if you don't do them. www.erowid.org is a really interesting resource, as reading it does makes you realize that just about everything that enters our bodies (by whatever means) has an effect on our minds.

One consequence of criminalizing the chemical drugs is the amount of shit like caffeine that's cut with it on the street. How can you asses the harmfulness of ecstacy when the pills are just as likely to contain god-knows-what in addition to the ecstacy?

I would like to see mainstream academia agree on some kind of research conventions for the study of hallucinogens. It'd really might help in understanding the human brain. It's not going to happen though, they're just too conservative.

Grondar

I don't do drugs, nor do I drink, or smoke cigarettes.

However, in a way I have respect for people that try drugs because they are trying something new and risky.

Having respect for someone that does drugs sounds kind of funky, but in a way I do. They are doing something that I am not "brave" enough to do, or at least try, and therefore in a way I have a measure of respect for them.

I hold nothing against people that do drugs, as I feel that everyone is in control of their own life and has a right to do what they want with it. While some people view drug users as "weak" people looking for a way out, I personally view them as people trying something new and unique. And I certainly don't hold that against them.

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LordEden

Trying to quit Cigs (The worst drug out there period!), I don't drink that often, once every few months and not enugh to get shitfaced. I smoke weed, I like it but I try not to do it to the extreme... I like weed for the fact I can smoke a jay/bowl and go along my everyday life and no one knows a damn thing (Some do, but most don't). It doesn't lay me out on the couch or make me so stupid that I can't carry on a conversation. I don't like anything hardcore and I consider anything but weed hardcore (opium is the base of alot of bad drugs, to adtive IMHO) and tripping is not someone that should be done alot. I don't have a problem with a person who does drugs, unless it impacts their life to the point it is a problem. Drugs can kill, but sometimes they can help.

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ARTelevision

In my life, I've done more drugs for more years than most people here.
I don't do drugs now and haven't for some years.

If you are interested in my review:
drugs are destructive of mind, self, life, and others - period.

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raeanna74

I've never used an illegal drug and don't plan to. I've got prescriptions for codine and I've been on morphine (when I had surgery) that was nice but I think I liked it so much just because it was relief from the pain I was in. I'm always curious so I'd try marijuana but that wouldn't be more than an experiment. I sometimes have the occaisonal wine, champagne, or beer. Never have smoked cigarettes. In reference to those situations where people use "responsibly" I have a friend who now and then smokes some marajuana. He's married - 7 years, no children, and CEO of a big corporation. It's not hurt his ambition or intelligence but he only uses it once every few years or so. The biggest thing - Don't let it rule you. That's where people get hurt.

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GuttersnipeXL

Drugs affect everyone differently. I'd say through my own personal experience that nothing spectacular has ever become of it. The day after you always feel drained. The effects of "drugs" can be the best you felt in your life, or the worst. With hallucinogens the effects are so 50/50. I ate acid two weeks after I got high for the first time and blew my fucking mind. I had no idea how to handle it, I didn't know what it was like to be out of my head...I'm was pretty sure I teleported that night...but the fact is, it was just a hallucunation. Acid, by far is the hardest drug out there. I can say that it was a truly life changing experience...would I take it back if I could?...It's hard to say...I'll post more later, this has the potential to be an interesting thread.

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spectre

I've never had anything illegal, but I once spent almost a month in the hospital on a PCA (basically, it continuously pumps morphine into the bloodstream). I didn't like the way that I acted while on morphine. At first, the morphine made me more outgoing and a little more amusing then I usually am. Normally, I'm very calm and laid back, but after a while on the morphine, they almost had to restrain me. Now, I refuse to do any drugs or drink any alcohol because I don't like the way that I acted.

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SecretMethod70

The closest I get to drugs is the church wine.

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ARTelevision

I'll take the time to specify I don't use alcohol either.
I have too many close friends who have been devastated by that to ever want to touch the stuff.

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pickledaddy

To put a very long story short, I ended up in a mental hospital for a week. There I met a recovering drug addict. I have always been clean, and listening to him describe his drug binges made me lose all the previous curiosity I had of them. During one of his drug binges, he tried to kill his mom and didn't even remember. I find it sad when people use drugs to get away from the troubles of day-to-day life and that drug use leads them down a road better left untravelled.

asdf-man

... i... dont like drugs much. never done any and i never will.

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Sun Tzu

I've experimented with almost evey drug (no needles) there is. Some a little more than experimenting. A few years ago I decided I didnt want to use them anymore, and stopped. Now like Macheath; occasional fine wines and beers are consumed for taste.
I will say some of the funnest times of my life were the times I used X. If / when Ive have children of my own I will do my very best to educate them about and steer them away from drug use.

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