05-15-2008, 12:12 PM | #81 (permalink) | |
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
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05-15-2008, 02:35 PM | #83 (permalink) |
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What are her years worth though? As I said before, she had to be pretty f'd in the head to begin with. I don't foresee her death as being of any consequence vs the many others that die involuntarily. Bottom line, she made a choice that reflected her level of intelligence.
Suicide is dumb. But you know what, I just did the same fucking thing he did, i just, in a round about way, said, the world is probably better off without her. Should I get sentenced now? Is my opinion and dislike of another person and exercising my so called freedom of speech worth locking me up? Where are the charges "accessing protected computers" coming from anyways? Last edited by Shauk; 05-15-2008 at 02:38 PM.. |
05-15-2008, 02:52 PM | #84 (permalink) |
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MTM was 13 years old, Lori Drew is an adult. She's expected to act knowing the possible consequences of her actions. If someone tells you they're suicidal and you give them a gun you share responsibility if they pull the trigger. If she really didn't do anything, she can explain to the court. She might consider herself lucky not to have a more serious charge.
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05-15-2008, 03:16 PM | #85 (permalink) | |
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I sorta think all the adults in this case are to blame. Every single one of them.
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05-15-2008, 03:32 PM | #86 (permalink) |
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no, it's bullshit, This falls in to the responsibility of her parents, 1st off, the girl wasn't even 14 yet, she wasn't even old enough to have a myspace account, it says so right in the 1st article.
That said, she was on track to becoming another sob story "oh pity me i'm a victim of bad parenting" story that winds up on daytime talk shows, and now, she killed herself and became a martyr for this? she died living in a fantasy world, pretending to be a girl that she wasn't, who got a dose of her own medicine by someone else pretending to be a guy that they weren't. I'm sorry but people are mean, adults are mean, the internet is mean, and if you let your 13 year old on myspace when she's already mentally ill, you're a fucking sad ass fucking pathetic excuse for a parent and need to be smacked upside the head with a telephone booth. This is such a twisted idiotic story from the start. |
05-15-2008, 04:11 PM | #87 (permalink) |
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i'm not making excuses for the kid's parents, i'm making excuses for HER. she doesn't deserve that? yeah so shes on myspace at age 13, so I was already lookin at Playboy and listening to gangster rap and playing violent video games with my friends at age 13, so you grow up fast. But I didn't have any adults sticking it in my face either. it's like, here ya go Timmy, go play with this unloaded gun. you might THINK it's harmless, but you forgot about that bullet in the chamber.
I don't think anyone here (I cant speak for those crazy Parents groups) is saying we need to censor the internet, or make it less free, trust me I'm the first one complaining whenever they pass new laws 'for the children', we're saying you should have some responsibility for your actions, virtual or otherwise. Harassment is already illegal. It doesnt matter if you do it over the internet, text message, hand-written letter, or verbally. If you follow a 13-year-old around in public telling them the worlds better off without them you're probably going to have some explaining to do too. I don't know exactly what the mother's involvement was, but I suppose that's what the court needs to figure out. the internet is not and never has been some place outside of the law, sure most people, online or irl, do get away with most crimes, but its always a roll of the dice, somebody loses eventually.
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05-15-2008, 05:55 PM | #88 (permalink) |
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I have a couple of opinions on this which shouldn't hopefully start a debate:
The woman who did this deserves the harshest punishment, simply because she did something that she had to have known would be severely harmful to the girl. Even I know how angst-ridden and easily depressed 13-year-old girls are, and I have a penis (please, don't debate this). The girl, as Shauk noted, was not very bright and suicide is in fact dumb. However, she was a 13-year-old, so stupidity just comes with the territory and is therefore a moot point. The parents of the girl needed to be more strict. Once a child is--arguably--15-years-old, the can start having some Internet freedom, but should still have an eye kept on and (especially in the case of a girl or a fat, emo guy) the parents should do so until about 17, when they should be intelligent enough (partly thanks to the parents, I would hope) to discern what's tragic and what is complete bullshit. The hormones are raging, sure, but the world is a lot less cloudy. Also, I think this whole thing is tragic, for the record, and my heart (or what's left of it) go out to the parents and the (I'm guessing here) friends of the girl. I hope the woman is punished to the fullest extent of the law, and possibly raped in prison by a broom handle or however butch prisoners do it.
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05-16-2008, 09:17 AM | #91 (permalink) | |
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Looks like the mom that started this whole thing is being indicted. I think this is a good thing.
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