Insane story: Woman forced into sex with son
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WHAT THE FUCK.
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Heinous story. It's weird when criminals break into a place and then dwell, and think of stuff to force people to do. It happened before to a few college students. I mean, usually when someone breaks into a place to steal, they wanna get out as fast as they can, so this is a heinous story, probably of boredom on the part of the ten culprits.
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Shocking and sad. Especially considering the age of the two who were caught. I can only hope that "the system" sees the severity of the crime as call for trying them as adults. I imagine boys that young would get paid special attention in prison. THAT would be a good start on justice.....
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Sounds like a fetish. Don't judge...
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Methinks the perps will get a VERY similar taste of their own medicine once they're convicted and put in with the general pop.
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See, this kind of thing is where the "cruel and unusual punishments" should be allowed. This is an extraordinarily cruel and unusual crime. Honestly, no shit... I think they should be beaten daily until they die. I think shit likes this needs a terribly morbid example made of it. Perhaps they should be sodomized and beaten until they die. Slowly. An eye for an eye may make the whole world blind, but justice sometimes is a bitch.
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this is some sick shit- but we should all learn from it-I am in no way blaming the victims, but fuck, I NEVER go to my door after dark without a weapon handy- and NO ONE should go outside of their dwelling, in the dark, with a person unknown to them- especially when that dwelling is in a "crime ridden housing project"- this was pre-meditated as hell, they went looking for a sucker, found one, and did as they pleased- most of the people of the world are revolted by the thought of something like this, but clearly there are some dangerous, sick fuckers out there- and sadly, the key to safety is caution and awareness........
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Yes yes. Burn them.
Mob vengence... Yay. In seriousness, this is a nasty crime. However the defendents are entitled to a trial and selection of an appropriate punishment. To my way of thinking, they are almost insane, by definition. I definitely do not support this idea of killing them and letting god decide. If that was the case, Iraq would be simple. Just nuke it and let god sort it out. Not nice. Particularly bad if god turned out not to exist (or turned out to be a supporter of Muhammed). |
I think the perps should be locked up for life with no possibilty of parole.
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our justice system is fucked up, ineffective and poorly concieved- we do not punish well, we do not rehabilitate well, and as a result we have a constant recycling of people through our system- seriously, ask anyone on the street what our prison system is for, and you have a 50% chance that they will say punishment, the other 50% will say rehabilitation......it does not work, and costs billions...... as to the perps in this case, I say punishment is appropriate- and I do not feel that the state has much right to decide their fate- let the victims decide..........in fact, In all cases, I feel that the agrieved party should be able to pick the punishment from a list of (suitably viscious) approved options.........
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That is seriously sick, I don't know how people like that can even exist. I think that they should find an island somewhere and just put all these sick fucks on it and they can deal with themselves. Just deport every criminal and sick fucker like that onto the island and be gone with them.
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There is a reason victims don't decide on the punishment of the convicted. It's called bias. Certainly the American justice system isn't perfect, but you don't want the alternative. To advocate cruel and unusual punishment is heinous in itself. That is why it's called cruel and unusual. Do you truly want to have the system go Old Testament? Please, put away your pitchforks! |
Once you decide to violate the rights of others... you in turn lose all of your rights. Pretty straight and simple.
There's no need to try to rehabilitate people that commit crimes like this, and letting them live in prison is a burden on the system. I say do away with them. |
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They'll go to jail for 5 years or so and get out because the victims aren't dead. Meanwhile if you get caught looking at kiddie porn at a corporation you go to jail for 10 years. Or if you're a CEO who signed papers that said your finances were in order when they weren't you go to jail for a minimum of 10 years. These fucks will get out of jail in less than 10 years.
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Ya know, George Carlin had a bit where all the rapists, murders, and other lowly scum of society got "banished" to a large fenced in area with no guards, and few buildings and accommodations. The fence would be quadruple layer razor wired and electrified, and food and other sustenance would be dropped in via helicopter. The idea being that these scourges of humanity would sort it out themselves.
I know that is not the general way of our justice system, but prison and rehabilitation as we know it today doesn't appear to be working all that well. |
every system is open to abuse- do you really believe that our current system is unbiased- please- all that I advocate is letting the victim have the right to decide, within parameters, what someone deserves- can you really claim that anyone has more right? let us say that your parents were gunned down in cold blood while being robbed- why is it wrong to let you decide whether the perpetrator should be executed, imprisoned for life or flung to a bunch of lions?
the perpetrator decided to commit the murder, and it would be, I think, harder for victims to order a gruesome death than you may think- it would make justice a more personal thing, and something that everyone would be forced to think on......do you claim that you are for instance a christian? a pacifist? think what that would mean in the system I propose........ |
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Our system is deeply imperfect (the imbalance in law enforcement, prosecution, and punishment among the races comes to mind), but it's miles better than most alternatives. |
has anyone in your family been the victim of a violent crime- if someone you care for is murdered, you may change your mind about how great our system is....
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actually, it is derived from old scandinavian law- I got it out of a few of the norse sagas- and it does have its flaws like anything else, but it makes the concept of justice personal, and that is something that I think is not a bad thing, and would help our society run better......
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It's very easy to be asking for blood and retribution when the crime is particularly heinous. I too am shocked and revolted be the act and hope that the family can rebound and live a normal life. Tall hopes.
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The problem with meting out "an eye for an eye" type justice to criminals who commit horrific acts is the scaling these punishments for "lesser" crimes. Do we cut the hand off when someone steals an apple? And what if this person is a habitual shoplifter, has a criminal record as long as your arm but hasn't stole anything worth more than $50.00? Both hands and possibly a foot? Having the victim decide the punishment would create an unbalanced and broken system. While one victim may met out harsh punishment for a particular crime, another victim may feel different and have a lesser sentence for the same criminal activity. It is too easy for me to feel that these shitbags should get what they deserve. And trust me, I would not shed a tear if these rapists were anally violated every day in prison. But it's not so easy for me to decide what would happen to a drunk on the street causing a disturbance. I may feel that person should sleep it off in the drunk tank. My neighbour may feel that person should have their teeth knocked out. Which is the right course of action? |
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In my opinion, the law works best when it's decidedly impersonal. Listen: when somebody puts a ding in my car door, I want to kill them. That's not an exaggeration. Fortunately for all of us, we live in a legal system that seriously inhibits my acting on that reaction. Our society frowns on sailing around in longboats wearing horned helms, raping, looting, and pillaging the local villages. Perhaps in such a society, a system as (well, I'll say it) barbaric as the one you propose would be appropriate. I don't think our system is great. It's broken in some fairly dramatic ways. But my inability to order the death or maiming of a person who injures me isn't one of them. |
Let a pitbull or something similar chew on their dicks for a while. Then, shoot them in the kneecaps and let that shit fester while sticking rusted nails under their skin in various places every day until death occurs.
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While I agree with the desire to just torture these people, I just feel the damage it would do to the people doing it is not worth it. I feel a basic desire to end their existence in a quick fashion, and prey that G-d will take care of the eye for an eye part.
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The main problem I have with this is what if they got the wrong guy? That would really suck.
That is why I am against torture and the death penalty. Human error can be fatal. |
Of course, there have been plenty examples of mistaken identity and completely innocent individuals have died during torture or were executed. However, don't they have concrete evidence against the assailants? DNA evidence and, if I'm not mistaken, one of them has confessed?
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I am not proposing allowing a maiming for dinging a door- there would have to be a scale of what was acceptable- just as with anything- I invision something where death or torture/etc would only be an option for murder, rape, things like that- The codes I drew from dated from the time of Scandinavia being a primitive democracy, and there were a number of things held over from it to our present legal system- the right to a trial by jury of ones peers, for instance, as well as the idea of the community setting a series of possible punishments- but the core of it was that the injured party had a stake in the punishment of the offender- something that I feel would be valuable to us today, due to the widespread disillusionment with the legal system as it stands..... its hard to ignore something that you are an integral part of- and hard to be disinfranchised from a system like that too.......
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Internets have porn of this in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1......
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And, yeah, let's torture them, since evil begets evil. Of course, the best method for this is to be hanged, drawn, and quartered. And it would be best to let your children watch... it would be a rich moral lesson, especially for the younger ones. |
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Forgiveness is more powerful that retribution. Not everyone can see that, though.
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I may sound cruel, but these little pricks need to be taught a painful lesson. |
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