sixate, why don't you find a new job if you hate it so much. Is it cause you don't want to lose your seniority?
I don't understand what you are trying to say apechild. You're not trying to win some internet discussion- the point is to learn from constructive discussion. But still, if we just read what you said about textbook economics we'd know that you were right?
I'm sorry, but i know that a lot of econ is bullshit. Econ is brilliant when it comes to explaining what happened a month ago, but dismal when it comes to accurately predicting next week.
I read your textbook econ post and i concede that your figures may be accurate in theory, but barring any actual real-world examples it remains just that, theory. And when was the last time econ was ever very accurate just in theory? Which economic system are your diagrams based? Free market? Competitve oligopoly? Both exist in the american economy and both may have different properties with respect to unions.
Besides, if it were about learning from constructive discussion you'd acknowledge that unions do more than just cost people jobs just as i've acknowledged the truth in some of what you say, i.e. that unions can also have a negative impact on the common worker.