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Originally posted by Orodinn
You a gangster or something? Violence won't solve anything. In any situation, it's always easier to destroy than it is to act contructively. Destroying might make you feel better for the next few minutes, but in the long run, you're hurting yourself....
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Violence <b>can</b> solve <b>some</b> things. *Random sarcastic comments I decided to remove before posting*.
You <b>cannot</b> say that in ALL cases, there is a non-violent way to solve things, and make them equal- or even CLOSE to equal. Automatically eliminating an option (violence) from your problem-solving methods makes your methods weaker.
I would like to convey my thoughts on this, as a serious debate of the specific pros and cons using examples and reasoning. Consider for a moment, if you will:
If you don't consider violence as an option, which is obviously the most drastic measure, then how can you accurately measure the relative pluses/minuses of your other options?
Example- If a guy grabs your wife or girlfriend on the ass, you have several options open to you.
You can...
1. tell him his actions were inappropriate, and that if someone did that to HIS wife, or sister, or mother, or daughter, HE'D not like it either (a good, non-violent answer to the problem)
2. punch him in the face
3. punch him in the face and then beat the shit out of him while he's crying on the ground...
if you don't take into consideration ALL available options, you'd fail to see the TRUE power of each option, and you will not be as ready to handle the situation should it turn toward violence, which you'd not originally considered.
If he were to then tell you "fuck off, you want to make something of it?", and PUSHED you, and you'd originally not considered an act of violence as a possible option, you could suddenly and- without thinking- react to his pushing with a return of violence or take too long in reacting to his violence, giving him an edge over you. You've now put yourself AND the person you're trying to protect into actual jeopardy. <i>Now</i> try to resolve it without violence.
In any situation, regardless of what facet of life you're talking about, you can never really master the art of negotiation and fully control your surroundings unless you consider every option available to you, and fully understand the benefits and risks of them.
That is why, in my opinion, saying "violence solves nothing", and immediately dismissing it, can only be a detriment to your decision-making skills, making you less effective than someone else.
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Originally posted by Orodinn
...And if the other guy has friends like you?
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Few people have friends like me. The thought of such has never deterred me from doing what I feel is necessary, but I DO consider the possibility- and the consequences of my decisions.
(wow, i CAN have a calm debate! lol
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