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MuadDib · 10-06-2003, 09:12 PM

Wind power is now cheaper than coal power. The most recent studies at Stanford and published in the journal Science have wind power costing about 3-4 cents per kilowatt while coal runs at 5.5-8.3 cents per kilowatt. This mixed with solar power totally eradicates the need for coal or nuclear energy and the pollution/danger involved. The US right now could afford to issue no interest loans to the people of this country to install solar panels into every home which would pay for themselves within 5-10 yrs. Why does this not happen you ask. The reason is simple political economics. Money runs campaigns and corporations control those interests. The energy industry in this country contributes billions of dollars annually to politicians and a renewable move like this would quite simply put them out of business so they put lots of monetary pressure on politicians to not make this kind of move. This is the exact same reason we don't have hydrogen powered cares though the technology is here today and we could have them on the market in the next three years with minimal government funding.
As for nuclear energy, which I endearingly have always referred to by the 50s-60s jargon as "The Promise of the Peaceful Atom", is even more pollutant and unsafe than coal. Let's look at Three-mile Island, Chernobyl, and Tokaimura. Those are possible immediate consequences, now lets look at Yucca Mountain. We're going to be storing 77,000 metric tons of nuclear waste in a mountain that has earthquakes frequently! Now even if we didn't put it there it would have to go somewhere and thats just the problem. In the relatively short period of time we have had such a limited use of nuclear power we have managed to gather up more waste than we can handle without burying it deep in a mountain and walling it off! This waste will be dangerous for thousands of years! This is NOT sustainable energy! It hurts people and it hurts the planet. The technology for safer, cheaper, and cleaner energy is here today, but to get to it we need to get our politicians off their collective duffs and out of the pockets of the trillion dollar industries that paid for their elections, homes, cars, and children's education.

A summation of the study I site can be found at:
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr...dpower822.html
http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas...9/daily21.html
http://arizonaenergy.org/News&Events...s_new_wind.htm
http://www.tcgreens.org/gl/articles/...063639524.html

10-06-2003, 09:12 PM	#31 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	Wind power is now cheaper than coal power. The most recent studies at Stanford and published in the journal Science have wind power costing about 3-4 cents per kilowatt while coal runs at 5.5-8.3 cents per kilowatt. This mixed with solar power totally eradicates the need for coal or nuclear energy and the pollution/danger involved. The US right now could afford to issue no interest loans to the people of this country to install solar panels into every home which would pay for themselves within 5-10 yrs. Why does this not happen you ask. The reason is simple political economics. Money runs campaigns and corporations control those interests. The energy industry in this country contributes billions of dollars annually to politicians and a renewable move like this would quite simply put them out of business so they put lots of monetary pressure on politicians to not make this kind of move. This is the exact same reason we don't have hydrogen powered cares though the technology is here today and we could have them on the market in the next three years with minimal government funding. As for nuclear energy, which I endearingly have always referred to by the 50s-60s jargon as "The Promise of the Peaceful Atom", is even more pollutant and unsafe than coal. Let's look at Three-mile Island, Chernobyl, and Tokaimura. Those are possible immediate consequences, now lets look at Yucca Mountain. We're going to be storing 77,000 metric tons of nuclear waste in a mountain that has earthquakes frequently! Now even if we didn't put it there it would have to go somewhere and thats just the problem. In the relatively short period of time we have had such a limited use of nuclear power we have managed to gather up more waste than we can handle without burying it deep in a mountain and walling it off! This waste will be dangerous for thousands of years! This is NOT sustainable energy! It hurts people and it hurts the planet. The technology for safer, cheaper, and cleaner energy is here today, but to get to it we need to get our politicians off their collective duffs and out of the pockets of the trillion dollar industries that paid for their elections, homes, cars, and children's education. A summation of the study I site can be found at: http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr...dpower822.html http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas...9/daily21.html http://arizonaenergy.org/News&Events...s_new_wind.htm http://www.tcgreens.org/gl/articles/...063639524.html __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751 Last edited by MuadDib; 10-06-2003 at 09:20 PM..