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Old 09-25-2003, 01:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally posted by rodgerd
You can assert anything you like. You can assert magic fairies are hiding Hussein and his weapons. Without evidence, this doesn't make it so.

And Hussein never got anything he sent overseas during GW I back. Why would he repeate the mistake?
He didn't get anything back from Iran you mean.

And the difference between Syria and fairies is that Syria was his ally and there was precident.

To the best of my knowledge, the King of the Fairies hasn't signed any treaties with Saddam Hussein.

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This, I agree with. Sadly the present administration has a policy which has, in effect, told others that no matter how perverse a rogue nation you are (North Korea, Pakistan) you will be treated with kid gloves if you have nukes. If you don't, you'll be invaded on a poll-driven whim.
Odd that when the public supports a war, the critics call it 'poll driven' but when they don't support it, they critics chastize the administration.

No matter, I somewhat agree with you, but all the more reason to take out Iran NOW.

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It would certainly make a change from their nuclear proliferation efforts in the 80s. Giving nukes to the racist regime in South Africa; way to "never forget",.
What are you talking about?

South Africa gave up on it's nukes program and does not have any.

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Israel already has nukes. It's highly unlikely Iran or any other nation state in the area that values its existence would use them on Israel.

A further complication for any Moslem would-be destroyer of Israel is that nuking Israel would almost certainly destroy the site of Mohammad's ascent to heaven, which would not make you especially popular with many of your co-religionists, especially those in parts of the world who care somewhat less about the existence or otherwise of Israel.
Of course Iran would not directly nuke Tel Aviv; more likely they would provide a weapon to a terrorist group and attempt to smuggle it into Isreal.

As to the rock where Muhammed supposedly assended into Heaven, that is in Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv.

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The biggest risk for nuclear use is probably US ally Pakistan supplying the terrorist groups it supports and hosts (like al-Qaida) with weapons, since such groups aren't interested in their survival, only the death of their enemies, and will compromise their religious beliefs to attain the goal.
I will agree that I am afraid of the Pakistan govt. falling into radical Muslim hands, like Iran.

If that happens, the world will become even more dangerous.
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