Ephedra + caffeine is nothing but a fat burner, which is why they look ripped. It takes a toll on your heart, so I wouldn't recommend it. As far as steroids are concerned, I work too hard on my body and health to go and screw it all up with a cycle of roids just so I can gain some extra size. Considering all the things that steroids affect...I like my liver, my heart, my skin, my hair, my penis, my stomach, and my mind way too much to be screwing around with Deca or any other cycle
