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Old 05-02-2011, 08:46 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by urville View Post
I hate to mince, but I think perhaps Stalinism, non-revisionist (kimism), Castroism, etc may indeed be authoritarian, but saying all forms of socialism (which encompasses communism) must be authoritarian is not entirely true anymore than saying all capitalism leads to plutarchy and oligarchy. Just for accuracy here. I mean i get that you would probably quote Marx as saying "the dictatorship of the proletatriat", but thats hardly the end all be all on socialism in all of its modern forms and thought. Just a pet peeve there.
I appreciate your point... I probably should have left it general. It's already hit the wrong button and my overall proposition is now distracted by defining authoritarianism... my mistake.

But to your point, authoritarianism can be individuals, bureaucracies, take your pick. In socialism the leadership determines what's best for all... the greater good... right? Authoritarianism light? Perhaps, but still authoritarian.

But getting back to the point... if we believe the people want socialism (or anything else), put it in the national discourse and honestly debate it's merits. Change the Constitution by amendments or a constitutional convention to reflect the will of the people. Methodical and disciplined.
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