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Hyacinthe · 11-29-2008, 10:06 PM

I agree with those saying she is not a man because quite simply she is not - she may think of herself as a man, the baby may grow up to think of her as a fatherly figure. BUT none of that will change the fact that she is technically a woman at this current point in time.

It is not a MAN having a baby it is a transgendered woman.

I have the same issue with those people running around saying that they're lesbians who occasionally like sleeping with men - you're not a lesbian if you like sleeping with men you're bi-sexual and prefer women. A true lesbian would see about as much appeal in a man (unless he was unusually effeminate) as they would in a lamp-post. Same is true for those running around claiming to be gay but who find women sexually appealing.

We can lie to ourselves, we can lie to society but that will not change facts (is what I like so much about them).

What angers me the most about this story is the irresponsible way it is being handled by the media - why have a headline reading "Man having a baby" when you know that technically, scientifically speaking it is NOT true.

Final argument I have - if this woman committed a crime would she want to be put into a male or female prison population? Surely if she's really a man then she'd go into a male prison? I bet you that wouldn't happen because she would be subjected to beatings and rape - she would be put in a female prison because legally until she has a penis she's a man. She can mentally and emotionally identify herself as a man but while in posession of a vagina she's still female.

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This may sound as though I object to those people who are transgendered - I don't, I have numerous friends who are mid operation to change their gender or who choose to cross dress ( you'd be surprised how large the niche for that is amongst sex workers and strippers) and I generally call them by whichever designation they prefer as I would in this case if I knew the woman / man in question. Still doesn't change my opinion in this case though.

11-29-2008, 10:06 PM	#25 (permalink)
Hyacinthe Psycho Location: Australia	I agree with those saying she is not a man because quite simply she is not - she may think of herself as a man, the baby may grow up to think of her as a fatherly figure. BUT none of that will change the fact that she is technically a woman at this current point in time. It is not a MAN having a baby it is a transgendered woman. I have the same issue with those people running around saying that they're lesbians who occasionally like sleeping with men - you're not a lesbian if you like sleeping with men you're bi-sexual and prefer women. A true lesbian would see about as much appeal in a man (unless he was unusually effeminate) as they would in a lamp-post. Same is true for those running around claiming to be gay but who find women sexually appealing. We can lie to ourselves, we can lie to society but that will not change facts (is what I like so much about them). What angers me the most about this story is the irresponsible way it is being handled by the media - why have a headline reading "Man having a baby" when you know that technically, scientifically speaking it is NOT true. Final argument I have - if this woman committed a crime would she want to be put into a male or female prison population? Surely if she's really a man then she'd go into a male prison? I bet you that wouldn't happen because she would be subjected to beatings and rape - she would be put in a female prison because legally until she has a penis she's a man. She can mentally and emotionally identify herself as a man but while in posession of a vagina she's still female. ***** This may sound as though I object to those people who are transgendered - I don't, I have numerous friends who are mid operation to change their gender or who choose to cross dress ( you'd be surprised how large the niche for that is amongst sex workers and strippers) and I generally call them by whichever designation they prefer as I would in this case if I knew the woman / man in question. Still doesn't change my opinion in this case though. __________________ "I want to be remembered as the girl who always smiles even when her heart is broken... and the one that could brighten up your day even if she couldnt brighten her own" "Her emotions were clear waters. You could see the scarring and pockmarks at the bottom of the pool, but it was just a part of her landscape – the consequences of others’ actions in which she claimed no part."