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Originally Posted by luciferase75
Well, no. I'm resistant to nearly anything when presentation is bad. I would never choose vegetarian however because it doesn't work for me.
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You mean
you choose not to work for
it.
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In other topics I'm willing to listen if there is something to consider, but in veg diet there is nothing for me to consider.
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Fair enough. You like meat and don't want to give it up. But I don't buy it when you say there is nothing for you to consider. That sounds like an easy out, that you are unwilling to think deeply on the issue and how you could practically make it a part of you life. If you like meat and that is it, then just say so; don't say there is nothing for you to consider. There's plenty for you to consider.
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It's not pseudo science, my wife has heavy flow and was pale and very anemic when she tried to go vegetarian. She passed out more than once just walking, what else do you want? Yes we had bloodwork drawn up as well, the cause was proven. Cooking everything possible in an iron skillet didn't help, as well as dietary supplements. She went back on meat and the problems went away.
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I cannot reasonably comment on this because I don't know what her diet was really like. I'm sorry she had to go through with that, but realize that not everyone has these problems. She is likely a special case. Otherwise, a properly balanced vegan diet is full of iron. There are vegan female athletes who have no problems. (Vegan female athletes have an incredibly high iron requirement.)
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Humans DO have teeth built for eating meat, unless you get your canines removed (veggies too, hold on). Even then your molars are this nice in-between model for vegetable and animal consumption. [...]
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Yes, we have evolved as highly flexible
generalists. This is why you hear the argument that eating meat/eggs/dairy is
unnecessary. Despite what you've pointed out here, humans don't do well eating the amount of meat and dairy that the average North American eats. Not by a long shot. This is partly to blame for the high rate of heart disease and some cancers.
As for your other responses, I'm sure aberkok would rather address them.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
i would think it less important that you are a vegetarian who gets vegetables from a regular supermarket than if you are an omnivore who tries to stay with sustainably produced local food as much as possible.
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I think this is wrong. If said omnivore eats meat once or twice a day, I would be more certain of it. The amount of resources that are required to produce just one pound of meat is astounding. If you want to compare sustainability within the context of the two diets, even if the vegetarian was living in Canada and getting all the food from the U.S. and the omnivore got their food locally, I think the vegetarian's diet would still be more sustainable. And, of course, sustainability is just one of the issues.