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Old 11-09-2008, 06:28 AM   #21 (permalink)
aberkok
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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte View Post
I hope you didn't intend this to be a legitimate point. Do you care equally every time a person dies on the planet? Would you feel the same about a family member dying as a random person you've never met? For the sake of your family, I hope not.

I have no problem eating a cat raised to be eaten, assuming it's well-prepared and safe to eat. I, of course, have a problem with eating my own cat. You care about things close to you that you choose to care about, and there is nothing internally consistent with that fact. No one I've ever met cares about all life on the planet equally, even with the assumption that it's all of equal value, because it's silly and impractical.

In my opinion, the purpose of my cat is for me to love it and it to love me and for us to be happy coexisting. Also in my opinion, the purpose of a cow is for me to eat it. You're damn right I care more about the happiness and continued existence of my pet than I do about the cow's. I also care more about my wife's happiness and continued existence than I do about anyone else's in the world. That doesn't make me a bad person or make me a hypocrite.
Well this might hold water if humans didn't have a choice and required the consumption of animals, but they don't. The choice is not killing one person or animal over another. The choice is not to kill at all.

I have not taken part in any actions other than to speak my truth when the opportunity comes up, like here. I tend not to be a shit disturber in a conversation unless someone says something on the topic. I tend towards more positive topics like trying to get people to try kale or telling them I'll bake for them. I mention this because despite all that, I identify with what people are calling militant vegans.

It's really, really whiny of people to complain about "militant vegans" when it's such a minority voice. Our society is dominated by meat and dairy! Saying you get fed up with people trying to push it on you... is it really happening so often? How do you feel when ethnic minorities complain about racism?

["Oh no... he compared the slaughter of billions of animals which lead to diets responsible for an obesity epidemic to the plight of oppressed minorities... what a deluded jerk!"]

The way I see it, when people get defensive towards this point of view, it's because they don't want to face the logic of what they ought to be doing. And if you don't believe that we ought to be doing anything, then fine. I can accept that such a person exists. But don't respond with pseudo-science like "I had this friend who went anemic," or "humans have teeth built for meat-eating." Don't try to justify the fact that you don't want to make what can admittedly difficult but entirely possible and feasible change. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Also to touch on Baraka's point about more humanely raised meat, I can't reconcile the words "humane" and "slaughter."
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