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Baraka_Guru · 11-08-2008, 08:21 PM

luciferase, what is it you want to discuss? We can take this in two directions. I'm guessing it would be best to pick one.

1) It is wrong to politicize the diet of others, especially if it is uncalled for or during an inappropriate time, such as during a meal that observes a holiday or other event.

We can discuss how vegans should only address issues of veganism and their view of a meat/dairy/egg-centred diet only when a non-vegan asks about them. We can go further and explore situations where it is appropriate and situations where it is not. Maybe we could go further and highlight the reasons why we care or care not for what vegans say or believe.

2) Veganism isn't necessarily any better than other diets. This is why vegans shouldn't share their ideas on diet with those who aren't vegan. But if they do, they are being self-righteous and should be refuted.

This is a heavier issue, but would be one I'm willing to engage in. The other side of the issue, however, is that there is far more "communication" in support of consuming meat, dairy, and eggs than there is in support of a plant-based diet. So this is a hot topic, indeed.

So, luciferase, what is it you're wishing to discuss here? We're still unclear on your position. We're a bit confused on how you wish to frame this topic. Please come out with some talking points or questions, or I don't see this thread going anywhere constructive.

11-08-2008, 08:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	luciferase, what is it you want to discuss? We can take this in two directions. I'm guessing it would be best to pick one. 1) It is wrong to politicize the diet of others, especially if it is uncalled for or during an inappropriate time, such as during a meal that observes a holiday or other event. We can discuss how vegans should only address issues of veganism and their view of a meat/dairy/egg-centred diet only when a non-vegan asks about them. We can go further and explore situations where it is appropriate and situations where it is not. Maybe we could go further and highlight the reasons why we care or care not for what vegans say or believe. 2) Veganism isn't necessarily any better than other diets. This is why vegans shouldn't share their ideas on diet with those who aren't vegan. But if they do, they are being self-righteous and should be refuted. This is a heavier issue, but would be one I'm willing to engage in. The other side of the issue, however, is that there is far more "communication" in support of consuming meat, dairy, and eggs than there is in support of a plant-based diet. So this is a hot topic, indeed. So, luciferase, what is it you're wishing to discuss here? We're still unclear on your position. We're a bit confused on how you wish to frame this topic. Please come out with some talking points or questions, or I don't see this thread going anywhere constructive. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot Last edited by Baraka_Guru; 11-08-2008 at 08:29 PM..