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Old 07-28-2008, 11:06 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
As someone who owns a 2+2, please believe that you almost certainly can't. I'd have trouble fitting anyone bigger than a toddler in the back of the Eclipse.

I've driven the Elise, it can work as a daily driver.

You know better than to hate on Neons. I could make your car faster than an Elise for less than $10,000 and maybe 5 solid weeks of work. I'm just waiting for the cashier's check and the keys.
Daily driver isn't the same as single vehicle.

I do have to consider that the luxury of having a car in NYC is that it needs to be able to function more than getting from point A to point B. This means I have to sometimes use it to go to Walmart, Target, BJ's, Petsmart. I need to be able to fit at least 2 roller suitcases in order to go to the airport. Larger suitcases aren't so much a consideration as I'll take a car service or subway when on lengthy trips as $15/day for parking there is a pricepoint where it's not worth it.

as far as toddlers... well I have short friends.
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Okay... they even talk about a replacement for the Espirit.... wow!

Lotus Evora | evo News | News | evo
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The 3.5-litre Toyota V6 is just the start for the Evora. Future options include hybrid power, while Kimberley is very enthusiastic about the Lotus-built Tesla. ‘You can’t ignore the environmental issue,’ he says. ‘Chapman’s ethos of lightweight, efficient sports cars has always kept us ahead of the game in that respect. It’s our job to continue to be innovative and combine that with a car that is friendly yet entertaining to drive.’ CO2 emissions are low: Lotus quotes less than 225 g/km for the VVTi engine running under the command of its own ECU. Helped by a drag co-efficient of just 0.337, the Evora returns above 30mpg on the combined cycle.

Right now the team are keeping tight-lipped about performance: 0-60mph is said to be in the sub-five second bracket. Kerb weight is estimated at 1350kg (split 39/61 per cent front/rear) if you go easy on the options. With a surprisingly modest 276bhp on tap from the 3456cc V6, that gives a power-to-weight figure just below that of the Cayman S.

Recent tests at the Nürburgring have enthused Kimberley even further, the unflappability and strong performance of the four-pot AP Racing brakes having been a particular highlight. All Evoras will have stability control, but pressing the Sport button just to the right of the steering wheel will allow for a greater slip angle before it intervenes or alternatively it can be switched off completely.

The first cars will all come with the regular Toyota six-speed manual, but one of the first developments will be a US-friendly auto box with steering wheel paddles. Other future developments will include a race car, so expect a GT challenger sometime soon, plus further more extreme derivatives and a convertible. All these models are to sit alongside the £70K-plus range-topping and platform-sharing Esprit, due to be with us in around three years from now.
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