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Old 07-09-2008, 04:14 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Willravel
I define myself as a rationalist. I just happen to be atheist.

I'm sure that minorities always seem pushy and overbearing. I'm sure many people think homosexuals are pushy and overbearing. What they may not realize is that it's a reaction.
Sheesh, you're not going to play the martyr card, are you? How ironic.

Compare the struggle for equal rights among homosexuals and other minority groups on a meaningful point by point basis with those of atheists and then maybe you can make that analogy. But you can't - which is very keenly illustrated in the fact that no meaningful social movement has had the luxury of so spending so much time evaluating the intelligence level of the people who are oppressing them. Atheist oppression is pretty much encompassed by the statement, 'Christians don't like us.' Everybody else really doesn't give a damn.

I don't like that christian 'oppression' horseshit, either, but where does one start and the other end? You have to see that they feed into each other. They are sustained by each other. At least christianity is a real belief in 'something.' I don't see the point in making an effort to proclaim, 'I don't believe in that thing and I'm going to name myself in defiance of that thing...that I don't believe in.' Just seems silly to me.

But I am taking the discussion way off course, and I apologize. I would start another thread on the topic if I didn't feel like I have wasted far too much of my time on this discussion already. No offense! I've just got a ton of stuff to do, heh...
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