Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Willravel
Strawman. The past 6 years are further evidence. I never said the last 6 years was the only example.
They had no way of knowing the power political parties would hold in the future (thus the amendment process). Still, allowing one branch to choose the leadership in another branch flies in the face of checks and balances. They had to have known that.
The way things are going, for now and into the foreseeable future, it will always be the republicans or democrats in power. Binary oligarchy.
Why is "social experiment" in quotations?
Stupid was allowing the executive and legislative to choose the judicial. The process by which members are appointed should be independent of one another, as they are with the executive and legislative. This makes impropriety more difficult.
Stupid is:
Any process that can lead to this level of corruption needs reform.
|
So in summary, you're calling the framers stupid for making that executive and legislative choose the judicial? is that a correct assessment?
Quote:
|
The way things are going, for now and into the foreseeable future, it will always be the republicans or democrats in power. Binary oligarchy.
|
to quote you "strawman" since during the framers time it was also primarily a two party system.
It is in quotes to remind one that it is still an experiment it is only 232 years old. It hasn't lasted the time and duration of Chinese Dynasties or The Roman Empire wherein what you were born into was probably what you'd live with for your lifetime.
if we were talking just 3 people I'd tend to agree with you. But you're talking about 2/3 congress and 1 president. A bit hard to get that much collusion going, especailly for any length of time. Again, from my personal understanding of how the framers intended anything was that it wasn't to PREVENT things from happening 100% but to ensure that it wasn't going to last a lifetime.
__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.
Last edited by Cynthetiq; 05-28-2008 at 12:04 PM..
|