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Originally Posted by Aladdin Sane
Never dreamed I'd be defending her, but...
I just now saw the videotape, and I fail to see why her comment is a big deal. She was only making the point that she is being told to get out of the race before June, and this call is a historical aberration. To reinforce her point, she reminded her audience that RFK had just won the JUNE 1968 California primary when he was killed. For me, and folks my age, her remark only reminds us that we have witnessed a Democratic primary race lasting into June, and it shouldn't be viewed as unusual.....
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P-E-O-P-L-E.... Alladin Sane's is probably the most accurate description of what happened.....what Clinton's intent was.... I was attending one of the final school days of my sophomore year in high school when, while waiting at the bus stop earky on the morning after, a classmate told me that Senator Kennedy had been shot in Los Angeles.
My reaction when I first heard what Clinton said, on radio news, was that she was evoking a memory common to people of our generation, a kind of "short hand"....notice how she made back to back references of the Califfornia primary, the one in the largest state, taking place in a time in the election year that has not even come yet. She used two memories, back to back, to make her point.....her husband's 1992 California primary campaign, and RFK's.
She is trained to make "sound bite", points. She, herself, her daughter, and her husband, have lived in a Secret Service protection "bubble" for 16 years. In 1996, while she lived at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., the Secret Service and it's parent agency, the US Treasury, took the unprecedented step, out of concern for the protection of the white house, to permanently close the closest portion of the avenue to vehicular traffic.
Clinton's comments were obviously meant to evoke a comparison of how early in the contest it actually is, compared to in campaign years most prominent in the collective memory of Clinton and her generation. She used the two examples of this that made the biggest impression on her. Her second example, the one referencing RFK winning in California, and then being shot even as he was declaring that victory, I "got".
I don't like either democratic candidate, but I need to believe both are better than McCain, on their worst day. Everything Clinton says is not "about Obama". This wasn't......trust me.
The reactions of some of you seem absurd to me....alien (to my concerns and ways of thinking)....not well thought out, especially considering that Clinton herself lives an abnormal life in a security "bubble", with the memory of the tendency of her protective detail to err on the over protective side, every day for the past 16 years.
Some of the posted comments seem to come because of a visceral, negativity towards Clinton....thinking the absolute worst about her. She made a mistake, attempting to conjure up a reaction.....to make a strong point within just one sentence. Supporters and ambivalent folks close in age to her, instantly made the connection with what she was trying to get us to picture.
The cost was that those who suspected she is the "anti christ", an opportunist still "sticking around", because she hopes someone will "off" Obama....and then she can step in and take the nomination, think that she has publicly and loudly confirmed their suspicions.
The prime reason that issues like the following one are not dominating the campaign focus, but "Jeremiah Wright", "John Hagee", and the opinions voiced in thread like this are.....I think.... is because it is much easier to wrap your mind, and thus, your post, around a thread topic like this one's, than it is to wrap them around this:
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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ew_york_ti.php
Interview with The New York Times' Eric Lichtblau
By Paul Kiel - April 3, 2008, 2:24PM
Do we really understand the scope of the administration's warrantless wiretapping program?
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...t_read_292.php
.....Here's the way the whole thing works, according to Gorman: into the NSA's massive database goes data collected by the Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Treasury. This information includes data about email (recipient and sender address, subject, time sent), internet searches (sites visited and searches conducted), phone calls (incoming and outgoing numbers, length of call, location), financial information (wire transfers, credit-card use, information about bank accounts), and information from the DHS about airline passengers.
Then the NSA's software analyzes this data for indications of terrorist activity. When it hits upon a suspicious pattern, the NSA "feeds its findings into the effort the administration calls the Terrorist Surveillance Program and shares some of that information with other U.S. security agencies.”......
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People can't or won't wrap their minds around what the sentences above describe..... some even label it a "paranoid" subject, but the majority of the reactions about a "nothing" incident, are uniformly and comfortably embraced.
WTF ????
P-E-O-P-L-E.... either Hillary or Barak are equally our hope for confirming and reversing the condition of the removal of our right "to be secure in our papers", because we ARE NOT !!!!!!!!!!! Every email address, (and the subject line) you've written to or received messages from, every telephone number, date, time, duration, and every credit card transaction, internet search attempt, and web page visited, are the least of which have been "swept up".
Distractions and suspicions like this thread and almost all of it's posts ain't bringing us closer to retrieving what has been taken from us.
The reaction of unnamed people represented as being close to Obama, in reference to how comments made by Hillary are about Obama, as distributed in a "news" article, are as supportive of your suspicions about Hillary's intent, as you permit them to be.....
Me ???? I want my fucking fourth amendment protection back, god damn it!!!
Why aren't Hillary, Obama, Obama's unnamed aides, and the press talking about that?