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					Originally Posted by willravel
					
				 
				Either there is sin in heaven or there is not free will. Greed, selfishness, brutality, ruthlessness is in me. I don't let them out often, but they're there. Either those aspects of self would be removed by some supernatural mechanism, maintaining the peace of heaven (or The Place To Come), or said afterlife would include the chaos present in the nature of man. 
			
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 Why could you hypothesize heaven but not enlightenment?  
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Dull sublunary lovers love, 
Whose soul is sense, cannot admit 
Absence, because it doth remove 
That thing which elemented it. 
 
(From "A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning" by John Donne)
			 
		
		
		
		
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