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roachboy · 01-02-2008, 06:44 PM

personally, i dont doubt that there are statements from bin laden, but i would see them as taking advantage of free and available publicity.
put yourself in his position, and you'd probably do the same thing, say the same thing, no matter if it's based on fact or based on a desire to take advantage of cheap and easy pr.

not much different from saying that you worship cthulu, really.

so given that there's even less reason to trust what bin laden said than there is to trust what the bush administration says (no need to go into this...it's all obvious) then what would maybe be good would be to see what the demonstration is that al qaeda IN FACT had something to do with the attacks.

that you, aladdin, THINK that the statements of bin laden are reliable--even though in almost any other context, you'd probably be among the first to say that statements from him were the opposite--really doesn't mean much in the larger scheme of things. but i digress.

thanks for the info, host, but i'm still stuck on the linkage between who these interrogations involved and the conclusions of the 9/11 commission.
so far the story hasn't really broached this level of (potential) problem---the kean edito simply argues for obstruction and drops a few interesting facts along the way--but given that the aim of the edito is to argue obstruction and not to raise questions about the commission report itself--at least not at this point---there's neither any reason to have gone further nor is there any disappointed expectation floating about in the fact that it stopped where it did.

i think it would matter, and matter quite alot, if the infotainment the commission used for the report was in part or as a whole extracted under torture, wouldn't you?

it seems to me that this is the direction indicated by the information here and elsewhere about the linkage of the cia tape destruction and the 9/11 report.

01-02-2008, 06:44 PM	#30 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	personally, i dont doubt that there are statements from bin laden, but i would see them as taking advantage of free and available publicity. put yourself in his position, and you'd probably do the same thing, say the same thing, no matter if it's based on fact or based on a desire to take advantage of cheap and easy pr. not much different from saying that you worship cthulu, really. so given that there's even less reason to trust what bin laden said than there is to trust what the bush administration says (no need to go into this...it's all obvious) then what would maybe be good would be to see what the demonstration is that al qaeda IN FACT had something to do with the attacks. that you, aladdin, THINK that the statements of bin laden are reliable--even though in almost any other context, you'd probably be among the first to say that statements from him were the opposite--really doesn't mean much in the larger scheme of things. but i digress. thanks for the info, host, but i'm still stuck on the linkage between who these interrogations involved and the conclusions of the 9/11 commission. so far the story hasn't really broached this level of (potential) problem---the kean edito simply argues for obstruction and drops a few interesting facts along the way--but given that the aim of the edito is to argue obstruction and not to raise questions about the commission report itself--at least not at this point---there's neither any reason to have gone further nor is there any disappointed expectation floating about in the fact that it stopped where it did. i think it would matter, and matter quite alot, if the infotainment the commission used for the report was in part or as a whole extracted under torture, wouldn't you? it seems to me that this is the direction indicated by the information here and elsewhere about the linkage of the cia tape destruction and the 9/11 report. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 01-02-2008 at 06:46 PM..