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Slims · 10-28-2007, 07:55 PM

"Democratic" governments in the middle east are probably going to be worse for israel than the dictators.

The public sentiment towards israel is pretty bad. Give a country a democracy and the government will do what the people want. The notion that a 'democratic' government in the middle east would not be hostile towards Israel is foolish.

And while Iraq is in the middle east. Afghanistan is not, and really hasn't had anything to do with Israel. Also, a democracy is far more likely to produce a competent army (i.e. that could successfully invade Israel) than an oppressive regime like Saddam's (Since he had a bad habit of killing off competent people and anyone who disagreed or brought bad news).

Oh, and Skutch: Did you actually read that article before you posted it? The situation is a little more complex than that. How many times in history has a religion been successfully wiped out? Even if we wanted to take that course of action our ability to implement would be nonexistent. He makes a good emotional argument, but that is all it is.

But maybe we should give it a shot. Afterall, it worked for the Romans against christianity, the Catholic Church against Protestantism, the Chinese against Tibetan Buddhism, Europe during the crusades (how many times have we tried already?), etc.

If you try to puppet a religion every single practicing member (even the ones who weren't previously out to get us) is going to rebell in the worst possible way. How would you respond if somone executed your local preacher and told you to listen to some other guy instead? That's a real smart way to handle the worlds largest religion.

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Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	"Democratic" governments in the middle east are probably going to be worse for israel than the dictators. The public sentiment towards israel is pretty bad. Give a country a democracy and the government will do what the people want. The notion that a 'democratic' government in the middle east would not be hostile towards Israel is foolish. And while Iraq is in the middle east. Afghanistan is not, and really hasn't had anything to do with Israel. Also, a democracy is far more likely to produce a competent army (i.e. that could successfully invade Israel) than an oppressive regime like Saddam's (Since he had a bad habit of killing off competent people and anyone who disagreed or brought bad news). Oh, and Skutch: Did you actually read that article before you posted it? The situation is a little more complex than that. How many times in history has a religion been successfully wiped out? Even if we wanted to take that course of action our ability to implement would be nonexistent. He makes a good emotional argument, but that is all it is. But maybe we should give it a shot. Afterall, it worked for the Romans against christianity, the Catholic Church against Protestantism, the Chinese against Tibetan Buddhism, Europe during the crusades (how many times have we tried already?), etc. If you try to puppet a religion every single practicing member (even the ones who weren't previously out to get us) is going to rebell in the worst possible way. How would you respond if somone executed your local preacher and told you to listen to some other guy instead? That's a real smart way to handle the worlds largest religion. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence Last edited by Slims; 10-28-2007 at 08:06 PM..