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Old 07-03-2007, 04:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tecoyah
There is a much larger picture here, that deserves scrutiny. The Congress is charged with attempting to keep our system of checks and balances in place,which sometimes requires investigating possible wrongdoing from the executive branch of government. If this ability is compromised, there is literally no second tier of accountability to fall back on, and a free pass is in effect for the white house to do as they please. Under many circumstances this might not be such an issue as it has become today, but we are dealing with the most secretive administration in recent history and questions have been raised concerning the integrity of a large portion of the officials in power.
When a similar situation arose during the Clinton Era a full investigation was implemented resulting in a good portion of the truth coming to light, and an impeachment trial of the highest ranking official in this country. Testimony was ordered and given which implicated the President and proved he was not truthful, and in fact he was justifiably charged and had to deal with the results of his actions. He Lied to the investigators in a failed attempt to cover his ass,and paid a small price for his indescretions.
At that point in history the DOJ was extremely active in its pursuit of justice, and actually did its job. The Congress was capable of compelling testimony which was used to incriminate the POTUS, and accomplished what it is charged to do by our system of government regardless of attempts to prevent it by the executive branch. This was primarily accomplished by well documented Republican influence pushing for investigation, to the point of documenting and forcing the president to discuss his sexual life in under oath....and he lied.
Congress is now attempting to accomplish a similar feat without the DOJ helping. In fact they are somewhat hamstrung at this point by a breakdown in the very foundation of the criminal justice system we rely on to maintain order, and punish the guilty. In essence there is no longer a system available to Congress which compels truthful testimony, and thus the major tool used as a check and balance is compromised. Most people understand there are major problems with what is happening to the executive branch in this country, and now also fear that nothing can be done to find out the details of its problems, and fix it.

If you do not see this as a problem, you have limited understanding of our constitution, and to use the term so easily spewed by those who support this rape of our Republic.

Are acting Un-American.
What will the house judiciary committee do about this?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...rgatedoc_3.htm
Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment:
II. The Historical Origins of Impeachment
B. The Intentions of the Framers

The following is from a report written and released by the Judiciary Committee in 1974 in the aftermath of the Watergate crisis.

3. Grounds for Impeachment...


....... In the same convention George Mason argued that the President might use his pardoning power to "pardon crimes which were advised by himself" or, before indictment or conviction, "to stop inquiry and prevent detection." James Madison responded:

[I]f the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds tp believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty...63

63. 3 Elliot 497-98. Madison went on to any contrary to his position in the Philadelphia convention, that the President could be suspended when suspected, and his powers would devolve on the Vice President, who could likewise be suspended until impeached and convicted, if he were also suspected. Id. 498.
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