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Old 04-14-2007, 10:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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i wouldn't despair so much, host.

i think that you adopt a narrow view of the political sometimes: the actions of bozell et al have obviously to do with the fashioning of an ideological context--critique then involves both the understanding of networks behind this fashioning and the nature, extent and internal logic of the context they have been instrumental in fashioning, taken on its own terms. it makes little sense to force a separation, as if by accounting for the networks you account for the ideological field, its mechanisms of relay and reproduction, the effects these have had, and the problems created by these effects.

if this moyer's doc has more resonance now than the same information had in 2003, it would be a function of shifts in the ideological context that enframes that information now as over against that which enframed it in 2003. there are a number of obvious conditions of possibility for this: among them is perhaps the perception amongst written and (to a lesser extent) television "news" operations that their legitimacy was drawn into question by the way in which it allowed the administration to use it as a conduit for self-evidently false information, for arguments based on faulty logic rooted in crap data to justify a colonial war on grounds that had nothing to do with its actual motives...this as an example of the kind of process that is of not a little importance that you cant get to across the research approach that you adopt.

in other words, there is not only room for a number of ways to think about the extent and nature of the political, but there is every reason to encourage a diversity of approaches.

we have been working in a kind of informal concert for quite a while here and it should be obvious that we do so in part because we do not operate in the same way. i have faded a bit out of debates about the iraq debacle simply because for me there really is no debating any longer about the facts of the matter concerning the case for war, the way this debacle has unfolded etc etc etc. that and the fact that what i am doing in 3-d has required more attention from me, so putting elaborate posts up is something that i have curtailed.

so be of relatively good cheer. even stuff like the imus thread became interesting after a while. it does not follow that situations within which the premises of a question are fairly superficial that therefore nothing interesting can be said.

this on its own requires that one not limit one's thinking to the naming of names and tracking of networks--which is not diminish the interest of what you have been doing on bozell et al--it is simply to say that there are a number of angles from which one can approach the matter of ideology.
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