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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
These days, the guys who do it call themselves pickup artists and every last one of them is a sleazy asshole who would steal his best friend's girlfriend for bragging rights. The whole idea is about using social engineering to fuck someone who would normally not agree to hop into bed with you.
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Indeed, I can see why you might have that opinion. Since the pickup artists are not really relevant to this thread I won't go further into this. However I would very much enjoy discussing this topic with you and sharing with you any insight I might have. In a thread, over PM or though MSN.
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Originally Posted by greyeyes
Ok, so here's the deal, what I'm writing on is the idea that religion uses seducing tactics to lure people into their in-group. There are many cases where suduction can ruin a person and where seduction and bring the best out of someone. Perhaps, the deal with seduction being wrong is that some types can lead down a bad path while the other can do the exact opposite. The problem is whether the seduced knows which is happening and even if they realize that they are going down the wrong path it might allready be too late for them to care. I'm speaking of the seduction of both men and women here.
I am wondering where people believe that the line of good and bad (evil) seduction should be drawn.
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Hey Greyeyes!
Being seduced, in my opinion, is surrendering, bypassing or shedding something in order to fulfil a need.
With the sexual process this often involves cultural rules and values. A woman bypassing her vows of marriage in order to sleep with her lover is an example.
With the religious process it may involve surrendering freedoms, shedding beliefs or bypassing instinctive urges.
I would say that people only see seduction as a negative thing when the benefits are perceived to be less then the gain. Since value is a subjective concept it’s hard to draw a fine line.
Cheers.
- Mantus