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roachboy · 12-29-2006, 11:22 AM

the dunedan: what you post sounds like hayek or some such ideology about capitalism. there is nothing descriptive about it. the question here is not about what one wishes capitalism was: it is about the particular variant of capitalism that is unfolding in the states in real time, more or less. within this, it is about the politics of the concentration of wealth. the idea that you can separate the concentration of wealth from the economic system that enables it is not tenable. period.

you can wish capitalism was anything you like.
but that has nothing to do with the question at the core of this thread.

no-one denies that the problem of the distribution of wealth is of a piece with the capitalist mode of production---no-one who is looking at the empirical world, at any rate: that is at the actual history of capitalism as it has unfolded in historically.

not even american conservatives deny that there is a problem that follows from the distribution of wealth: they just think it is normal, natural etc. and that those who loose out in the game deserve to loose, are worth in every way less than are those who do not loose.
and they construct ideological fictions to justify this position---and insofar as these fictions acknowledge the problem of the unequal distrbution of wealth, they are preferable to those of a hayek or von mises.

12-29-2006, 11:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	the dunedan: what you post sounds like hayek or some such ideology about capitalism. there is nothing descriptive about it. the question here is not about what one wishes capitalism was: it is about the particular variant of capitalism that is unfolding in the states in real time, more or less. within this, it is about the politics of the concentration of wealth. the idea that you can separate the concentration of wealth from the economic system that enables it is not tenable. period. you can wish capitalism was anything you like. but that has nothing to do with the question at the core of this thread. no-one denies that the problem of the distribution of wealth is of a piece with the capitalist mode of production---no-one who is looking at the empirical world, at any rate: that is at the actual history of capitalism as it has unfolded in historically. not even american conservatives deny that there is a problem that follows from the distribution of wealth: they just think it is normal, natural etc. and that those who loose out in the game deserve to loose, are worth in every way less than are those who do not loose. and they construct ideological fictions to justify this position---and insofar as these fictions acknowledge the problem of the unequal distrbution of wealth, they are preferable to those of a hayek or von mises. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 12-29-2006 at 11:39 AM..