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Originally Posted by highthief
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're not speaking of a bank robbery where indeed the main object is to obtain money rather than hurt people. The OP is speaking of a school setting, where anyone walking in with a semi-automatic rifle likely has one thing in mind, namely killing people.
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That's what the OP was referring to, not what the part that I quoted was referring to:
You should ALWAYS assume that anytime someone comes at you with a gun, knife, ball bat, golf club, katana, or any other weapon, that he means to do you serious or fatal bodily injury. NEVER assume that a bad guy will not hurt you as long as you comply. That is an invitation to certain death.
dksuddeth is making a very broad statement regarding what should "always" be done "anytime" someone threatens you with "any . . . weapon", and says that if you do not this is "an invitation to certain death".
That is complete nonsense. Threatening someone with a weapon does not lead to "certain death".
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When there is another goal - be it money, sex, or other - "going along" may make sense. When the goal of the villain is simply to kill and hurt people, there is a time for fighting, and there is a time for running. Each situation is different.
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Exactly my point. Making such broad absolute statements renders the point meaningless.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
To add to highthiefs comments, you're also betting on the 'mercy' that a criminal who has just committed a capital is going to give you. You are a witness that can put him in prison and dead men/women tell no tales.
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No, I'm not betting on anything. I'm disputing that the threat of violence using a weapon leads to certain death.
Yet, not all criminals, not even all those who use weapons, kill their victims. Your hypothetical does not match reality.
For the record, I won't fight back, but I don't advocate that position as best for anybody else.
Gilda