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Old 09-20-2006, 01:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Would you mind quoting where I said I was a better person than you? I'm afraid you're attributing viewpoints to me that I have never endorsed.
Then exactly who am I worse than? Ring a bell?I don't have to be perfect to know that what you're doing is wrong. You are a worse person because you smoke. Period.


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The natural result of your statements above, it would seem, is that imperfect people are not able to judge the goodness or badness of the actions of others. Why would this be so?
They're not paid to do it. It's one thing to think that something is a negative for yourself, perhaps even for others(and we're talking personal issues, not legal ones). When you start sitting on a self-made throne tossing around moral judgments, then you cross a line. The only ones who should be the least bit concerned about any values you hold are your kids.
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If you know smoking is harmful to yourself and to those around you, how are you not purposefully harming human beings?
Tell me where I said I wasn't harming? Unlike yourself, I have a somewhat working memory and I can't recall saying I don't harm anyone else, including myself. I'm not that stupid, despite your preconceived judgments.


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I take it you're not a socialist?
Libertarian. Problem?


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Who am I? I'm a person who understands the difference between right and wrong and isn't afraid to let it be known. So are you, incidentally.

I have colored the places in your post where you are imposing your moral principles on me. You say, among other things, that taxation would be fairer if it were more progressive, that sinners cannot accuse others of sin, that purposeful acts of violence against human beings is wrong, that there is such a thing as fair distribution of income, and that it is vitally important that I not infringe on the rights of others.
The difference between us, then, is that, although we both confidently impose our different moral beliefs on others, I do so consciously and you do not. That, and you're getting quite upset about my audacious viewpoint. Need I color the unnecessary ad hominem comments as well?

I suppose I would indicate the inherently contradictory nature of that position and use the lesson to show you that even someone who believes they abhor moral judgments actually makes them with confidence.
I'm not imposing anything on you. I have no clue what you do and really couldn't care less. My 'moral principles' haven't even been discussed.
What you see as inherently contradictory, I have no idea. I've made no moral judgments on you or pointed out your immoralistic tendencies. It's not me you have to answer to, and I certainly don't have to answer to you by cowtowing to your demands.
What you are doing is pointing fingers and saying who is wrong or right. I have full knowledge of my actions. You're not the one who has to live with them unless I force you to do so.
If you're screwing around with hookers, that's your business as long as it's not in MY house. There's my moral judgment. Repeat after me: not in MY house. Since I'm not in yours, what I do is not for you to judge. Period. You can dislike something all you want; you can live with whatever values you want. When you push those on others and make the stance that you are better than they are simply because they aren't doing what you do, you're actually the 'worse' one.
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