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Originally Posted by willravel
As I understood your point, you were assuming a temperature close to 1500C (2732F). That's simply not the case.
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Eh? No, please don’t take my out of context, it makes me mad.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
I would agree that it was closer to 1500C, but I use 500C as a low bound I’m sure it was hotter then that, and 500C is all the heat I need on the beam to show a good cause of the failure of the building.
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First this quote was when you said it was 1500C, and I agreed, then I recognized I meant F
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
It’s hard to agree on a temperature, in any investigation, it needs to be a range of possibilities, at least 500C, but no more than 1500C
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
correct, but I don’t think the beam reached 1500C, from what I’ve read it was about half as hot as that.
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If you nit pick my statements, you can make me say anything, context is what is important
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Originally Posted by willravel
Wouldn't the load of the crashing debris be decreased by the fact that it was demolishing and breaking into smaller pieces as it came down? Do you think that we can actually work out some rough math to compare weight with resistence?
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Resistance would be impossible to work out; however, the amount of force compared to the resistance is like a bowling ball and a wet paper towel.
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Originally Posted by willravel
WTC: The collapses started at the upper middle and top, with no structural strength loss at the lower middle or bottom of the building
-the strongest supports would still have been intact when the building collapsed, which would offer resistence
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Yes, but as previously said, the amount of resistance is mute, it’s too small to stop the upper floors from crashing down and destroying the rest of the building.
I have a physics midterm to study for; I think this is my last post for the day.
Quick note to cynthetiq, the speed of collapse was just slightly longer than a freefall.
I’ll crunch some numbers to find the experimentally derived resistance the tower experienced to fall in the time it did.