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noahfor · 04-06-2006, 09:38 PM

Why am I experiencing the experiences of this body and not some other body, and why am I experiencing this moment in time and not some other?

That's the question, and I have an answer:

Because there is no "I" apart from the experiences. I am the experiences, and the feeling of being an "I" is just part of the experiences, and that the notion that experiences must be experienced by some experiencer is just a misunderstanding.

The feeling of having existed for more than this moment of experience is only because of the arrangement of memories in time, and the nature of the experience. This assumes moments of experience, but why would experience have to be momentary. Why couldn't a whole life be one experience?

Also:

Imagine two Universes. They are exactly the same. From no perspective are they different. Aren't they the same Universe? Because to be two, they must be different. Otherwise, how two? To be two, one must be on the left, one must be on the right, but this is a difference. This is the meaning of one and two. To be two there must be a difference, otherwise one.

Now, imagine two people, experiencing the same exact thing, not just the same visuals and sounds, but everything, they feel the same, everything. One of them is you. One of them is me. There must be a difference, since one is you and one is me. The selection process has put us each in one of these two bodies. But wait, is there really a difference. No, they are the same person. It's the same thing because it is the same experience. There is no I.

It's just an illusion that there must be a thing perceiving perception. Perceptions are what they are. The sense of self is no different from the sense of red. Only, by the MEANING of the sense of self and because we experience the meaning as refering to ourselve do we come up with the idea that we must be a self, but we are not.

It's a case of mistaken identity. You feel as though you are a self, so you naturally think you are one.

It's a painting of a guy looking at a painting confusing itself for a guy looking at a painting.

However, even though these are answers I came up with, I still find myself asking the original question.

Anyone have any thoughts?

04-06-2006, 09:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
noahfor Addict	why am i in this body Why am I experiencing the experiences of this body and not some other body, and why am I experiencing this moment in time and not some other? That's the question, and I have an answer: Because there is no "I" apart from the experiences. I am the experiences, and the feeling of being an "I" is just part of the experiences, and that the notion that experiences must be experienced by some experiencer is just a misunderstanding. The feeling of having existed for more than this moment of experience is only because of the arrangement of memories in time, and the nature of the experience. This assumes moments of experience, but why would experience have to be momentary. Why couldn't a whole life be one experience? Also: Imagine two Universes. They are exactly the same. From no perspective are they different. Aren't they the same Universe? Because to be two, they must be different. Otherwise, how two? To be two, one must be on the left, one must be on the right, but this is a difference. This is the meaning of one and two. To be two there must be a difference, otherwise one. Now, imagine two people, experiencing the same exact thing, not just the same visuals and sounds, but everything, they feel the same, everything. One of them is you. One of them is me. There must be a difference, since one is you and one is me. The selection process has put us each in one of these two bodies. But wait, is there really a difference. No, they are the same person. It's the same thing because it is the same experience. There is no I. It's just an illusion that there must be a thing perceiving perception. Perceptions are what they are. The sense of self is no different from the sense of red. Only, by the MEANING of the sense of self and because we experience the meaning as refering to ourselve do we come up with the idea that we must be a self, but we are not. It's a case of mistaken identity. You feel as though you are a self, so you naturally think you are one. It's a painting of a guy looking at a painting confusing itself for a guy looking at a painting. However, even though these are answers I came up with, I still find myself asking the original question. Anyone have any thoughts?